Cottingham 'must join Hull or be a market town'

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Thursday, December 06, 2012
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A HOMEOWNER believes Cottingham needs to "recognise that it is no longer a village – large or small".

Retired nutritionist Diana Sandy has lived in Cottingham for 40 years.

  1. Hallgate, Cottingham in the 1970s

    Changing times: Hallgate, Cottingham in the 1970s

She believes the village must consider becoming a market town or part of greater Hull.

Ms Sandy said: "It's lost its historic identity and has become a bit of a dormitory suburb.

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"The people of Cottingham need to realise life goes on."

She believes there is a possibility the village could benefit by becoming part of Hull or a town.

She said: "There may be disadvantages but there are advantages.

"There would be resistance to it on personal grounds and historical grounds but I would rather we made the effort. If someone wanted to have a discussion about becoming either a market town or part of greater Hull I would be quite happy."

Ms Sandy's frustration stems from her concerns about the supermarket being built in Station Road.

Morrisons is likely to move into the new store when building work is completed and developer Innovating Space says it will create up to 250 jobs.

But Ms Sandy, who used to lecture at the University of Hull, is worried the supermarket will harm village trade.

She said: "A supermarket will just destroy the middle of Cottingham completely."

Councillor Lena Slater is part of Cottingham's Future Action Group, which campaigns to revitalise the village centre.

She said she could not see any benefit to ending Cottingham's village status.

Cllr Slater said: "It just sounds to me like all Ms Sandy's saying is 'give up the fight'.

"I don't see any reason to do that. Why would everybody have fought to keep the supermarket out if they had wanted just to be a residential part of Hull?"

The East Riding councillor, who represents the Cottingham South ward, cannot see any benefit in becoming a market town or part of Hull.

She said: "The very worst thing we can do is just become a dormitory of Hull.

"Technically, we're as large as a small market town but I don't see what benefits there are. There's no solution in what she's talking about. We have to find a way out of all these very bad decisions."

Do you have an opinion on Cottingham's village status? E-mail letters@mail newsmedia.co.uk

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  • Profile image for bigsteve

    by bigsteve

    Sunday, December 16 2012, 2:32AM

    “@ stantheman 100% of our amenities are provided by the east riding council or the local parish council, yes we go in to hull to shop on ocation but we also go to leads, york and shefield it dosnt mean we want to live their.

    No not all the burgalers come from hull, we have a few home grown scumbags but the majority come from OPE and N hull as evidenced by the fact that some get caught and banged up and the police tell us they know who's doing it and where they come from.
    I live to the south of cott and we see a lot of OPE's here visiting local girls and mates that have moved hear from OPE. we know who they are and where their from so when we see them in the school breaking in we know who it is. They rome the village in gangs. they cause fights in the pubs on a weekend and year before last the reular DJ in tavern sold up as he couldnt make a living any more, the kept recking is equipment and beating him up. Its not ignorance its fact. I dont know were you live but their are certain areas of cott they wont leave alone. Ironicaly its the poorer areas. poorer areas = less security I think

    I've spent a few nights this year round at a friends house near OPE chasing people of his land. He rang the police then us, we beat the police their by 15 min on average, we know who these scummers are and where their from they dont care that they could destroy his business.

    House prices have a lot to do with this argument, theirs a lot of rich people in cott with some hi value houses if you think becoming part of hull wont affect house prices your daft.”

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    by stantheman

    Wednesday, December 12 2012, 8:34PM

    “re hugolitz; For the record I sold my house in Hull, with no bother at all I may add, and bought a cheaper one in Cottingham, cash.
    House prices have nothing to do with this argument, or those who think all the burglers come from Hull.
    Its ignorance like that which fuels the NIMBYS who all seem to have the loudest voices when this delicate issue is broached.
    Do they have this problem in York or Leeds for example?
    Do those living on the outskirts of those cities fight tooth and nail not to be associated with the bigger authority on which they depend for 99.9% of their amenities;
    Perhaps those who shout the loudest also whinged about the term 'Humberside'.
    Hull was the regional capital of Humberside now we are struggling for a new identity.”

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    by bigsteve

    Tuesday, December 11 2012, 12:35AM

    “cott becoming part of hull would be the worst thing that could happen. as soon as hull as control they will give themselves planning permission to develop all the green belt land. They have been trying to extend their boundaries for over 40 years that I know of for this purpose. The problem is that they own a large portion of the green belt land around cott and can't build on it. If they extend their boundaries cott will become just another hull housing estate and cott village will be a village in name only like Sutton. Hull cant cope with the population it has if it takes in the villages to the west of hull it will have reasonability for thousands more, and then they'll build on the green belt and bring in thousands more. The biggest instant advantage to hull will be the gain in council tax revenue which they'll spend fixing hulls problem while ignoring us.

    This is a mute discussion anyway as the rich and shameless of Cottingham won't allow this to happen as it will damage their house prices.

    As for Cottingham being an extension of North Hull & Orchard Park, what a load of rubbish. The only connection is the road the robbers use to get in to cott to burgle our houses, garages and sheds. It's a bit quiet on that front at the moment as the most prolific of these scum bags is in jail, still he cost me a few bob repairing the damage he did and improving my security. My lads mate would like to get his hands an the scumbag that stole his motor bike and road it all over North Hull & Orchard Park for a few days before making it disappear. A teenage lad spends months at sea fishing and grafting for what, to have some lowlife travel a mile or so down the road and take it. Make us part of hull they'll build more houses and the scum wont have so far to travel.”

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    by loubylou116

    Friday, December 07 2012, 5:54PM

    “I've always thought of Cottingham as a town anyway. Never occured to me it was a village - far too big for that!”

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    by AstynomiaKats

    Friday, December 07 2012, 5:52PM

    “Why don't both councils concentrate on sorting their own problems out instead of squabbling over more territory!”

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    by northyorkie

    Friday, December 07 2012, 5:27PM

    “To m_house,

    I should like to commend your views about Cottingham - especially your comments about growing up there - I too grew up there but I suspect many years earlier in August 1939 as a four year old and then left in September 1952 as a seventeen year old to join the Army. I returned in '55 after demob but by then my parents had moved house to Willerby and my visits to the village were usually for involvement in sport.

    Since the early sixties, my career took me around the UK and the world until 2006 when I returned to East Yorkshire to buy a retirement home with my wife and youngest daughter. I headed for Cottingham but I was outvoted and subsequently we now live on the coast.

    But to return to the point of your comments, I have been back to Cottingham two or three times in the the last five years and yes, there obviously have been changes but nothing that has reduced its warmth or, the friendliness of staff in the shops along Hallgate. So why on earth should ONE supermarket change the village's unique character? - Cottingham has existed for around a thousand years. So why should building a supermarket next to its railway station which is situated on its far north-eastern boundary with Hull, change its character or, its unique status as the UK's largest village?

    PS. Verbally I think the Council should remove Lena Slater's 'muzzle and lead' - That should settle it!”

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    by hugostiglitz

    Friday, December 07 2012, 10:21AM

    “How does East Riding council compare with Hull's anyway- aren't they Tories or something?”

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    by hugostiglitz

    Friday, December 07 2012, 10:18AM

    “@ fairway1

    The last time I checked Hull city centre contained nothing of any great interest & I see no reason why anyone would choose to go there. If you choose to live within walking distance of it all I can say is that I hope you are able to one day better your circumstances & turn that into a drive of maybe several hours.”

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    by Ferensian

    Friday, December 07 2012, 9:59AM

    “Fairway 1,

    Thank you for clarifying that. I obviously took Hugo's coments out of context. Apologies to him.”

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    by m_house

    Friday, December 07 2012, 9:06AM

    “@fairway1

    Frankly, your comments are both factually inaccurate and sound quite bitter too. I do not pretend that Cottingham is separate from Hull thesedays, it may as well be classed as a suburb. In fact, I normally tell people that I am from Hull when asked, as opposed to the East Riding. But to call it "nothing more than a large council estate with one shopping street, a gypsy camp..." is a load of rubbish. Cottingham is a great place to live, with lots of nice houses, great transport links to Hull city centre and north to Beverley and the coast and a good range of local shops and services. I've very much enjoyed growing up there and can't say I'd have preferred to live anywhere else in the area. Cottingham has a different character to some of the other west Hull villages such as Anlaby and Willerby and still feels quite self-contained. Hopefully it will stay that way, because we have the best of both worlds.

    As an aside, was this article in the comments section of the HDM? Because it's hardly 'news'.”

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