Crumbling Hull roads could be closed if cash runs out

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Thursday, June 21, 2012
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CRUMBLING roads in Hull could eventually be closed because there is not enough money to repair them.

The warning comes as Hull City Council prepares to move away from reactive pothole-filling in a bid to slow the decline of the city's highways network.

  1. OFF LIMITS:  Councillor Martin Mancey said a worst-case scenario could see some crumbling roads  closed to traffic.   Picture: Jack Harland

    OFF LIMITS: Councillor Martin Mancey said a worst-case scenario could see some crumbling roads closed to traffic. Picture: Jack Harland

Last week, the Mail revealed a £126 million backlog of maintenance work was required to bring Hull's roads and footpaths back up to scratch.

However, only £3 million is being spent by the council on road repairs this year thanks to a continued squeeze on public funding.

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Speaking at a scrutiny meeting, transport portfolio holder Councillor Martin Mancey said a worst-case scenario could see some crumbling roads even being closed to traffic in the future.

"Unless there is significant investment from somewhere in road maintenance over the coming years, some difficult decisions might have to be take," he said.

"They could include deciding whether to maintain the main transport routes around the city and accepting that, at the same time, we might not be in a position to maintain or repair other roads in a condition that would meet people's expectations.

"In those circumstances, it could mean introducing traffic restrictions on some roads in some cases."

He said the scale of the problem facing the council was illustrated by the need to spend £8 million a year just to maintain the roads in their current condition.

"There is no escaping the fact that the current annual current budget is any a third of what is needed to stop the decline," said Mr Mancey.

"What we have to recognise is that we do not have enough money to maintain the status quo, let alone to see any real improvement.

"It's a fundamental problem of not having money to deliver the required service to the public.

"This is a problem that is going to get worse and there will come a point where some roads become so dangerous because of their condition but we will not necessarily be able to carry our repairs."

The policy shift on road repairs will see larger stretches of failing road surfaces being tackled instead of individual potholes.

Mr Mancey said urgent work to single potholes would still be carried out but claimed the new approach was the best way to use limited resources.

"Research has consistently shown that carrying out larger repairs significantly reduce the need to keep going back to the same stretch of road over and over again," he said.

"Under the previous approach, we might have spent a lot of money filling in one sizeable pothole without addressing the poor quality of the road surface around it.

"By doing that, you end up going back to fill in another pothole when it appears in the surrounding surface a few months later."

Speaking at the same scrutiny meeting, Councillor Gary Wareing said: "The key thing is the need to get money from central Government to maintain the highways.

"If that is not going to be forthcoming, we need to make sure we get best value from the money we have got. We have got to make sure that money is spent effectively."

Graham Hall, the council's group transport manager, confirmed urgent unplanned pothole repairs would still be carried out in emergency situations.

He cited a recent example in Old Hedon Road where a number of potholes suddenly appeared in the road surface within a few days of each other.

"The deterioration there happened very quickly and reached the point where it was causing very serious problems to traffic.

"It wasn't in the capital programme but repairs were carried out."

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  • Profile image for AstonomiaSK

    by AstonomiaSK

    Sunday, June 24 2012, 1:24PM

    “To close a road temporarily youu need a traffic order, to close a road permenantly you need to consult and would lead to a judicial revue which would cost more than fixing the road - so people of Hull start shouting let the councillors you elected know you won't accept this sort of treatment, they represent you and if they want to hang on to their fat expense checks and bursaries they better start listening.”

  • Profile image for Man With a Van Hull - Local & Nationwide Removals & Storage

    “sell the kc to the allams, problems over”

  • Profile image for charleswelton

    by charleswelton

    Friday, June 22 2012, 10:05PM

    “How dare you insinuate I was having a snipe at unemployed people, it is people like you who sit on their backsides dictating to the world who make it such an awful place. My suggestions were whole hearted and born out of genuine concern both for people and for the state of the roads in Hull.”

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    by pcrowan

    Friday, June 22 2012, 4:55PM

    “Drivers best start or increase the suing of the Councils when their vehicles suspension springs break due to pot holes. In the meantime Councils could do some forward planning by creating an easy to fill in claim form...perhaps a local rapidly expanding solicitor could advise on a no "shock" cost basis or we simply all just buy Chelsea tractors and start using the "smoother off road grass verges"”

  • Profile image for IDoknowbest

    by IDoknowbest

    Friday, June 22 2012, 4:24PM

    “Since when has raking asphalt been a highly qualified trade? Semi skilled maybe and we would all be stuck without those that do but once again some posters throw in a childish comment thinly covering another snipe at the unemployed. My suggestion is that the first road to close should be the one from South Cave to Hull otherwise known as 'The Troll path'”

  • Profile image for I_M_Right

    by I_M_Right

    Friday, June 22 2012, 12:23PM

    “Andy30104
    Resurfacing is one of the advantages of a tarmac road. The process is generally fairly quick and can also be used to raise and lower levels of the road in problematic areas, of poor drainage for example.
    Concrete roads are cast as a think reinforced slab, making it both difficult and expensive to incorporate future services within them. They are also UGLY, think about Bransholme and Sutton Fields, there might not be as many pot-holes, but the joints between the slabs make for a very uncomfortable driving experience.
    Concrete roads are ideal for highways carrying lots of large heavy vehicles, but it's overkill for our inner city streets and suburbs.
    The cost and disruption that would be caused by replacing existing roads with concrete would be astronomical, besides tarmac provides a better and safer driving surface - Resurfacing removes approximately 50mm of road surface and then replaces it, a concrete road would require new foundations which would mean excavating to a depth of around 600mm.
    Concrete also creates tonnes of Co2 during manufacture.
    The answer your question is yes, it would indeed be more expensive over the long term.”

  • Profile image for Andy30104

    by Andy30104

    Thursday, June 21 2012, 10:40PM

    “@I_M_Right

    Concrete roads may be more expensive in the short term, but in 31 years and with approx 1000 buses a week and thousands of cars, my road has never been resurfaced. However the next road along which is tarmac has been resurfaced at least 5 times in the last 31 years. Can you honistly say that concrete is more expensive in the long run. As for noise, it maybe noisy on fast roads. But on slow intercity roads the volume difference is negligible.”

  • Profile image for charleswelton

    by charleswelton

    Thursday, June 21 2012, 10:40PM

    “I asked if you had anything constructive to add, not if you were going carry on like a spoilt child”

  • Profile image for BorderPatrol

    by BorderPatrol

    Thursday, June 21 2012, 10:31PM

    “charleswelton - Lets just say that I disagree with your last comment on this thread and that incompetence is rife througout government, local or otherwise as it is through you.

    Oh and a bit of stcks and stones as well, after all you are the obvious target, what with all the drivel.”

  • Profile image for charleswelton

    by charleswelton

    Thursday, June 21 2012, 10:01PM

    “And have you anything constructive to add to the discussion or have you just come here to throw sticks and stones ?”

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