“im a student there now, + to be honest all you people saying there parents need to get off there backsides stop drinking and what ever else, there not all like that thankyou verymuch!
my mams a police woman, and my dads got a shop and it does very well :) and you make out like the schools really bad the only bad thing about it is the suplys theres to many. I must admit when i have them , i dont do as much work or maybe none at all, but the rest of the teatchers are really good . The school should start focusing on that not bringing stupid rules in about jewlry and stuff its a waste of time because there strickt about it for about a week then it goes out the window! they should be spending more time changing other things about the school not stuff like that. oh and if my spellings wrong sorry ;)”

“The parents must take most of the blame, too busy being a pretend celebrity or drinking and taking drugs, discipline your kids!
and James your not the only one who pays tax you know if I had my way you would pay more as the money is obviously needed.”

“re: Jonathan, yes I was more than slightly patronising with comments about those who buy consumer goods on silly credit terms. But I do feel they are too short sighted to realise how they are being conned by capitalism in general. I certainly did not intend to label anyone who has not attended university or is living on a council estate as stupid.

I used to work as a lab tech at a pharma company about 8 years ago. It is a job that nowadays requires a degree due to the job market saturation of graduate level chemists, although at the time I was on an apprenticeship scheme after getting decent GCSE's and no doubt there are competent children leaving school all over the country who cannot access these schemes which are now closed because of the graduates. I was doing my chemistry qualifications via day release and was paid slightly less than those with full degrees and experience, as would be expected. I was getting 12.5K.

I went back for 6 months in 2006 after I resigned from an appalling company and took up my old role as a stop gap. I got £7.50 an hour which was about the same as the experienced degree laden lab techs who were almost all different to those I had left behind. In fact there was now an Iranian, an Iraqi, a Pakistani a Nigerian and some Polish. The english were a distinct minority. The techs were great people, very interesting, in fact much more interesting than those that used to work there. They were also all qualified with degrees or masters in science related subjects. They were happy to work for around 14-16K and probably would have took less. They had simply priced the educated English people out of the role. Of course this is no fault of the new techs but simply a very cynical and dirty way of forcing the wages down. At some point it will affect professional roles, and already is in some sectors, almost as much as the traditional working class roles.

I know people who get paid more packing yeast at a dump of a factory on sutton fields, and the government wonder why people aren't taking science at university!

So, pupils at Hull schools think hang on! why go to college and then go to UNI, take on loads of debt and then get paid the same as a bus driver at the end of it? The median salary for a gradute starting employment is 24K. But that is a national figure.How many quality companies in Hull do you know that are taking on graduates on a graduate scheme let alone at 24K? Not many, even before the slump.

The fact is that many kids are savvy and know this. The majority of jobs in Hull, generally speaking are not the kind that require specialist skills, certainly not to the same level as they do elsewhere. Even if all the children in Hull excelled at school and when to university, we would have thousands of heavily in debt young adults sat around depressed that they had wasted the last 6 years of their life. Even if they migrated to other cities then what good is that to Hull and anyway the vast majority would remain unemployed because they would be competing with people from that area. The only other option would be to go abroad and work but again, what good is that to Britain and anyway other countries would soon pull the drawbridge up if they had a flood of highly educated people coming their way.

What a double whammy for big buisness! Since the fee's were introduced the banks have thousands and thousands of people paying interest for a long time on their student loans and these same banks, and many many other companies get to reduce their wages, due to competition when employing educated people. Now we see the real reason to push evryone through university!

School needs to be more relevant and teaching children in Hull the same curriculum as those in Oxford is a nonsense. Why not get young people in training at 13 or 14? Create good quality apprenticeships where a child see's the fruit of his/her effort at the end of the week in the form of tangible pound coins.

True”

“I'am ex David Lister, I thought it was a zoo compared to the jr school I left early due to 3 school system becoming 2.

For me education stopped when I started David Lister & restarted once I started employment.”

“The reason why Lister is not doing well and the others are is down to a couple of good factors.

1. Leadership
2. The constant negative publicity from HDM
3Apathy of some of the pupils, NOT all.
4. Why is it when pupils that go to Lister from the primaries that have confidence and are buzzing, suddenly within 6 months have lost all of the promise. WHAT is going on???”