East Riding Council rejects plea to suspend 'bedroom tax'

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Thursday, February 21, 2013
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CALLS to suspend any reduction in housing benefits for people applying to move into smaller homes have been rejected by East Riding councillors.

Under the so-called bedroom tax being introduced in April, working age council and housing association tenants will have their housing benefit cut if they are deemed to be under-occupying their properties.

  1. 'Fairness':   Labour Councillor Shelagh Finlay.

    'Fairness': Labour Councillor Shelagh Finlay.

  2. 'Hands tied':  Councillor Symon Fraser.

    'Hands tied': Councillor Symon Fraser.

Households classed as having a spare room will see a 14 per cent reduction in benefit, which typically covers rent payments.

Those with two spare rooms face a 25 per cent cut in benefit.

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The changes being brought in by the Government are expected to hit about 1,200 council households in the East Riding as well as 300 residents in housing association properties.

At a full council meeting yesterday, opposition Labour Councillor Shelagh Finlay moved a motion calling on the authority not to levy residents in council housing classed as being under-occupied if they have applied to move to a smaller property.

She said the proposed move would apply if the council was unable to provide a smaller home.

She said: "This is not a debate about the rights and wrongs of national policy. What we are saying is that the council can decide in the interests of fairness."

Cllr Finlay claimed waiving any reduction in benefits would be possible if the council increased the amount of funding it currently uses for discretionary housing payments to tenants struggling in emergency situations. That budget stands at £374,000 a year.

But Councillor Symon Fraser, portfolio holder for housing, said increasing that budget could only be achieved by increasing council tax charges for all residents in the East Riding.

He also claimed the council's hands were tied because the welfare reforms were part of national legislation, which could not be amended by local councils.

He said: "The change in the housing benefit system – the bedroom tax – is laid down in law by the Government and we have to implement it. It is as straightforward as that.

"It is not a levy, it is a specific benefit reduction. There is no freedom for us as a council to waive the reduction in benefit for someone wanting to downsize."

Cllr Fraser said he agreed the changes would "not be helpful" to people deemed to be under-occupying their homes and claimed the reforms could trigger "unintended consequences".

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  • Profile image for Cluhead

    by Cluhead

    Friday, February 22 2013, 6:55PM

    “How can people move to a smaller properties if there isn't any? Because this is exactley what the Parasitic Government want! They want your money, your pension, even your property! There is a major campaign by these Zionists, to take and rob everything off you! They don't want you to have any form of life but only an existence so you can pay your taxes! These greedy zionistic parasites have a campaign to cause civil unrest so they can slap more staues, more policies and more taxes on you. Time to wake up Britian and make a stand!”

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    by richspice

    Friday, February 22 2013, 3:52PM

    “This isn't a problem caused by the council its the conservative liberal democrat alliance. There are going to be big problems as there are not enough single bedroom properties available in some cities and the problem is very clear in hull as a large amount of them were demolished and people moved into empty council houses. This is going to lead to people living o the streets and let's see if it may also lead to rebellion in the same way the Poll Tax did. People will be unable / unwilling to pay and be getting evicted but refusing to leave properties and court cases coming unable to cope with numbers or house the numbers of people sent to prison. How can people move to a smaller property if there isn't one and if people have lived in a property while there children grew up say 18 to 20 years should they be expected to leave it because they lose their job and the children move out to start a family of their own”

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    by knowthetruth

    Friday, February 22 2013, 2:27PM

    “does the council know that they will be breaking the law when they take money off people.because it states by law you need a certain ammount to live on”

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    by jessiejoexx06

    Friday, February 22 2013, 10:28AM

    “so does that mean they will pay me as i have got more than 2 in a bedroom so technically speaking i am overcrowded....think i will put in an application for more money from them”

  • Profile image for Cluhead

    by Cluhead

    Friday, February 22 2013, 12:21AM

    “What are we doing about this people???? It's time to make a stand against this parasitic Government and the other puppets in the Houses of Parliament and the House of lords! How can they implement another statue, when we dont subscribe to it! It's about time the poeople stood up to theses thieves because thats all they are doing! Theiving from us until we have nothing to give! And when you end up with nothing left, then what are gonna do about it? They have turned you into sheep and your walking merrily along ton their penn. Wake up and say 'Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!”

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    by Worker1l1

    Thursday, February 21 2013, 8:59PM

    “Stop whining

    We all know that a Labour council would have had people with too many rooms shot, just like the millions eliminated by the NHS under the previous Labour government

    Foam_drool_dribble_rant”

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    by AdPotentia

    Thursday, February 21 2013, 8:26PM

    “Theiving lying tories once again. Other councils are not going to charge the sick, poor and disabled council tax, they are going to tax empty second homes and empty properties.

    Parno and his disgusting Tories wouldn't want to do that now would they? That would be a decent and upstanding policy.

    If you are going to starve the poorest and kill the coldest, hand yer O.B.E. back Parnaby before you choke on it”

  • Profile image for ferretmonger

    by ferretmonger

    Thursday, February 21 2013, 2:58PM

    “This is a typical tory policy, ie not thought out properly! You are a parent or parents and your told your housing benefit will be cut because your house is too big, do you A, try and find a smaller property or B, have more kids to fill the extra rooms? I wonder how many women have got themselves pregnant to resolve this very problem? In the long run like all tory policy this will have a major detrimental impact on this country. The trouble with tories is they want to look tough but they always end up looking wet and pathetic.”

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    by PatrickNewman

    Thursday, February 21 2013, 1:13PM

    “It is no longer a "so-called" bedroom tax. Even the Daily Mail and the DWP refer to it as a tax which in effect it is. I am confident that there will be an angle for a legal challenge because the tax cannot be avoided by the vast majority of tenants no matter how keen they are to downsize.
    The sale of councils houses is a major factor in the lack of alternatives. Pensioners are exempted except where tenants have a mixed household. The traditional source of 'excess' rooms is of course pensioner household especially single pensioners who survive their spouse. Councils have had a range of ways of persuading them to downsize. For ERYC to say they would have to put up council tax is absurd. There's plenty reserves and other funds. It will be interesting to see how Hull tackles this one (or indeed the 300+ councils in the same position).”

  • Profile image for OldSkoolCool

    by OldSkoolCool

    Thursday, February 21 2013, 12:54PM

    “Has there been any figures released show the number of people living in houses that are too small, and therefore demonstrating a need to move people out of larger houses?”

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