Hull FC: Embarrassed Gentle worried by lack of progress after Widnes debacle
A CONCERNED Peter Gentle has hit out at his under-performing Hull FC side and warned some will be losing their places.
Gentle couldn't hide his frustration after seeing his side comprehensively beaten 36-16 at Widnes.
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Failed to take his chance: Brett Seymour came under fire from Hull FC fans after the defeat at Widnes.
Embarrassed by a pitiful second-half performance by the Black and Whites, the Hull coach admitted he's worried by the lack of progress from last season.
And with just one win from their opening five Super League games, Gentle says he can't continue giving his players any more chances to turn it around.
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"I am concerned because I have 17 players not doing a job at the moment as a group so I have to find 17 players that will," said Gentle.
"From where I am looking there is very little progress on last season and that is the concern. We have familiar faces out there making the same mistakes and it is time for change.
"It is not just one person, but as a group, and it is time to get some people out there who can carry out the job.
"The players out there are not getting the message so it is time to bring some players in who will.
"Our fans deserve a lot better, especially the ones who came to the game. But as a club we have to be a lot better and the personnel has to change."
Beaten at the Stobart Stadium for the second successive year, Hull's performance showed no signs of progress with their hopes of a top-four finish looking a million miles away at present.
Gentle is aware changes need to be made for the visit of Castleford this Friday to address a stuttering start to the season that took a nose dive on Saturday.
Despite leading at half-time for the second successive week, thanks to tries for Joe Westerman and a first Hull try for Ben Galea, FC imploded after the break.
A catalogue of errors, poor discipline and a lack of leadership and direction combined to allow the Vikings to score five second-half tries as Hull slipped further down the Super League ladder.
"It is a domino affect and when one thing falls apart it is infectious and it is affecting the whole team," added Gentle.
"We didn't give ourselves a chance. We had a shocking completion rate and we backed that up with terrible penalties and ill-discipline.
"There was a range of things. We are not even giving ourselves a chance to be in a game.
"We needed to grind the game out and we haven't got that in us at the moment. We are playing without patience and discipline and we have to address a range of things.
"We have to make changes. The whole half-time talk was about grinding it out and going set for set and that would be enough to get us over the line.
"Our first kick of the second half was charged down and we followed it up with three consecutive penalties and conceding two tries."
Scrum-half Brett Seymour endured the majority of criticism from the terraces after being handed a lifeline back into the team as Daniel Holdsworth missed again with a head injury.
His performance is likely to be his last in a Hull shirt for some time after failing to take his opportunity, especially with Holdsworth set to return this week.
Asked why Seymour was brought in after being overlooked in recent weeks, Gentle explained he felt his fellow Aussie was ready to take his chance.
"Brett had a solid week at training and I was keen to play the two hookers. The previous week I didn't think Brett was ready, this week I thought he was," explained Gentle.
"I think it is quite obvious we need Daniel Holdsworth back. To not have him and Gareth Ellis, leaders in their own right, we are missing them.
"But the players should still do their job and didn't."
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by 11pointsbelow
Thursday, March 07 2013, 1:25PM
“airlie 22 if they aint good enoh then get rid, no room for sentimentality!”
by PrioryRed
Tuesday, March 05 2013, 11:34PM
“Wilo74, I have just read some of your earlier posts.
May I suggest that now is not the time to be so judgemental of Brett Seymour's performances this season.”
by airlie22
Tuesday, March 05 2013, 11:00PM
“wilo seymour payed against leeds so get your facts right,there is too much blame being put on seymours head,give the bloke a break if he plays again,remember what the so called fans did to thorman”
by Dr_Slammer
Tuesday, March 05 2013, 7:08AM
“wilo, according to PG (on blunderside) he thought seymour was 'ready'.
I didn't see the first half but did catch the 2nd half, and thought widnes wanted it more than fc. Undoubtedly, widnes are a different side at their place and the crowd seemed to lift them.
Perhaps it was because they were still in the game, with that intercept score just before half time, it will have changed Betts' half time talk!
But this is SL and I am sure both Hull clubs will witness this a few more times before the season is out.”
by Eddydunes
Tuesday, March 05 2013, 1:50AM
“by 3biesgalore
Monday, March 4 2013, 10:05PM
"have hull been behind at halftime yet this season."
You only get 2 points if your not behind at full time.
lol”
by 3biesgalore
Monday, March 04 2013, 10:05PM
“have hull been behind at halftime yet this season.”
by wilo74
Monday, March 04 2013, 9:21PM
“Sorry Seymour did play against Leeds but was dropped for being rubbish.”
by wilo74
Monday, March 04 2013, 9:17PM
“Am I missing something. We played well for 60 minutes against Leeds and ran out of steam against the champions in our first outing having been totally disrupted by the loss of Ellis. We comfortably beat Bradford. We drew with a top 4 side away from home and had the best chances to win. We lost to a very good Warrington side after being more than competitive for 60 minutes. At this point we all thought not too bad considering.
Seymour played in none of these games.
Seymour gets picked against Widnes. We look completely clueless and get hammered. Is it too simple for people to see. I will join the we are total rubbish brigade if we put Holdsworth, Crooks and Green back in next week and get smashed again.
For the record I hope Seymour is ok as I wish no-one ill but his time at Hull must now be up.”
by deadwood
Monday, March 04 2013, 8:39PM
“Peter Gentle may very well say "I am concerned because I have 17 players not doing a job at the moment as a group so I have to find 17 players that will," but realistically, how many changes can he actually make? Will he leave out Yeaman? I doubt it but can any supporter tell me how many passes he makes to Briscoe? In my opinion Yeaman has never been the same since Cooke left. Should Arundel be in the team? On Saturday nights showing no, the half backs will be Horne and Holdsworth (if he's fit) but what about an under performing pack? Just how many new faces will be in the 17, very few I suspect. Cas will be no pushovers, Hull will need to be at their best for this one.”
by RayFC
Monday, March 04 2013, 6:06PM
“2biscuits, yu make some very good pointsand yes if we could get a quality s/h then that would help us enormously and yes put crooks and whiting at centre andleave out gory boy Yeaman who to me as not performed up to now and IMO is a very overated centre as far a the forwards go yes i hope Liam Watts plays has he is a verytalented player wth a great off load and it has to be Holdsworth and Horne at half because right now that really our best pairing, i still thnk we will beat Cas on friday and lets hope the temcome out fired up after all they did beat Bradford very comfertably and they are playing pretty well at this time so come on you HULL, RayFC.”