Gym passes for Hull's drunken louts? £29k wanted for 'natural highs' plan

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Thursday, July 26, 2012
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DRUNKEN troublemakers could be given free gym passes.

Offenders convicted of alcohol-fuelled crimes will be given the passes if they complete a court order and remain out of trouble for three months.

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    Short-term trial: Alcohol offenders could be encouraged to visit the gym.

Hull Citysafe wants £29,000 from Humberside Police Authority to mentor the criminals and provide "diversionary activities", including the passes.

Vicky Harris, head of substance misuse and offender health at Citysafe, said the cash would fund a 12-month trial to expand court-ordered alcohol treatment requirements given to criminals.

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"We want to give people the opportunity to try out gyms, so instead of spending their days drinking and offending, they replace that with a natural high," she said.

"It might seem like a soft option but actually our aim is to stop that person reoffending. If they are getting drunk and starting fights, that means there will also be fewer victims of crime.

"It will only be for a short-term trial, which will give us an understanding of what works and what doesn't."

She said offenders "will not receive passes to David Lloyd fitness centres" and will more likely be given short-term access to council-run gyms.

"We want to encourage more physical activity but it doesn't have to be a gym.," said Mrs Harris.

"It is about pointing them in the direction of a more positive lifestyle.

"If they don't complete the alcohol treatment requirement, which is a very structured, very intensive programme, the option is taken away. If they reoffend, the option is taken away."

Alcohol treatment requirements are most often given to criminals who have committed common assaults or caused actual bodily harm.

Mrs Harris said: "They aren't given to people who have gone out, had too much to drink and done something stupid. We are trying to focus on people with an alcohol problem whose offending is becoming quite serious and trying to break their cycle of offending. It is more effective than giving them a fine or sending them to prison."

The funding request from Citysafe is part of new proposals to cut alcohol-related crime across the force area, which could cost the authority up to £288,000. They are included in a report due to be discussed by authority members next week.

The report says there has been a "huge increase" in alcohol-related hospital admissions in East Yorkshire.

As part of the plans to tackle the problem, drinkers convicted in the East Riding could be offered the chance to go on a course instead of being fined or prosecuted.

Offenders will be charged £50 to go on the courses, called drinking seminars, which will include education about the dangers of drinking.

It is part of a request for £60,000 from the East Riding Community Safety Partnership, which will also see offenders avoid prosecution if they agree to speak to an alcohol health worker to discuss their drinking as part of a conditional caution.

The seminar scheme will cost about £20,000 to set up, but officials hope it will eventually become self-funding.

The report says: "The proposal would be targeted at those who will change their behaviour given a relatively low-level intervention.

"Presently some may be getting fixed penalty notices, which are often unpaid and do not address alcohol consumption and its associated behaviour."

Citysafe is also asking for £41,000 to fund two alcohol workers to be based in police stations and courts.

They will assess whether offenders who have committed alcohol-fuelled crimes are suitable for alcohol treatment requirements, which including counselling and treatment for alcohol problems.

Mrs Harris said: "The main focus of our application is getting more workers into court, so we can get more people on to alcohol treatment requirements. The figures around them are amazing.

"There are people in the city who have been arrested more than 30 times before going on them, but haven't reoffended at all in the six months after completing it. We know they have a really positive impact.

"We have a problem with people drinking too much in Hull and offending. If they all end up in custody, that is a big stretch on resources."

The number of people being admitted to hospitals in East Yorkshire because of alcohol-related illness or injury has more than doubled from an average of 17 a day between 2002 and 2004, to 40 a day in 2010-11.

Figures reveal there were 304 alcohol-fuelled violent crimes in Hull and the East Riding between April and June.

Statistics show alcohol is linked to almost a third of violent attacks in East Yorkshire.

A spokesman for Humberside Probation Trust, which manages people subject to alcohol treatment requirements, said: "Alcohol misuse is a significant factor in offending in Hull, and particularly in violent offending.

"The money will enable better identification of whether offenders who are awaiting a court appearance have alcohol issues, ensuring this is brought to the attention of probation and the court."

• Update: Gym pass plan for Hull's drunken louts rejected

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  • Profile image for feduphully

    by feduphully

    Thursday, February 07 2013, 11:02AM

    “I have 2 sons who both work. One manages to pay for a gym pass because he still lives at home. The other works but has a mortgage and children so he cannot afford to have a gym pass but would love the LUXURY. Maybe I should tell him to start drinking everyday and causing trouble and he will get the LUXURY for free.I think we should start giving discounts to people who go to work, are not getting in to trouble all the time and are trying hard to bring up their children to be good citizens. This country needs to stop rewarding and spending money it cannot afford on trouble causing drunks/druggies who already drain the system”

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    by shygirl1968

    Sunday, July 29 2012, 8:47PM

    “thats it take bus passes off poor pensioners and heating hit us with council tax but give **** heads a gym pass free omg what the hell is England doing just like kids rule now so will druggies and drunks”

  • Profile image for Anon_Geoff

    by Anon_Geoff

    Saturday, July 28 2012, 9:52AM

    “Yeah... Don't let them use gyms!!! Bang 'em all up in prison.

    Which has a gym.

    Hmm.”

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    by swallo

    Friday, July 27 2012, 6:30PM

    “what next...............
    Jobs in pubs for alchy's
    Jobs in Boots for druggies
    Jobs in child care for *****'s
    Jobs in Harrod for tea leaves
    Jobs in customer service for Tourette sufferers
    How about just a job for the unemployed”

  • Profile image for Billybubbler

    by Billybubbler

    Friday, July 27 2012, 4:56PM

    “And then they wonder what's up with this country”

  • Profile image for bigmamma107

    by bigmamma107

    Friday, July 27 2012, 4:51PM

    “so every one if you like the gyme and want to go for free then just drink a lot and get in to truble”

  • Profile image for suffolkpunch

    by suffolkpunch

    Friday, July 27 2012, 4:21PM

    “Using a gym is a good way to build up a thirst.”

  • Profile image for Hull47

    by Hull47

    Friday, July 27 2012, 1:43PM

    “Forced exchange programme with decent well mannered people of Iraq, Afganistan, and other war zones around the world is the way forward with these Thugs. That will encourage a change in attitudes !!!”

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    by lawlek

    Friday, July 27 2012, 1:10PM

    “What needs to happen with these people is, when the drunks are locked up for drunken & disorderly and breach of peace, put them in a police cell where there is a weights room in the police station so they can do it there and the police can keep an eye on them. Who wants drunks at there local gym when you've already got drugies there popping steroids.”

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    by GetRealPlease

    Friday, July 27 2012, 1:01PM

    “If they are on benefits then stop putting money their pockets so they can't buy alcohol. If they work and have an income then take the money off them in the way of fines.

    And please don't give me the, "yeah but they will just steal alcohol" story because all that confirms is that we are beaten and have lost the plot. Also stop supermarkets selling super strong alcohol at crazy low prices (White Lightening and the like which people buy for one reason and one reason alone, to get hammered).

    The theory that people can be dramatically re-formed from drunken louts to gym freaks is, for the most part (with the very occasional exception) fundamentally flawed. For some the only way is to take away the means of doing whatever it is they do.

    Or just ties their hands and legs together, that's a cheap solution.”

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