Hull heads block £1 school lunches plan

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Wednesday, October 03, 2012
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HEAD teachers have blocked moves to cut lunchtime meal prices in Hull's primary schools.

Hull City Council's ruling Labour group had included a pledge to reduce meal prices in its budget proposals earlier this year.

  1. TOUGH TIMES:  Labour wanted to cut the cost of a main meal in  Hull schools from £1.30 to £1

    TOUGH TIMES: Labour wanted to cut the cost of a main meal in Hull schools from £1.30 to £1

Labour wanted to cut the cost of a main meal from £1.30 to £1 by allocating £1 million towards a subsidy package.

In a press release issued at the time, the group said: "These measures will help people during tough times."

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But, eight months on, councillors have reluctantly accepted the price cut is not going to happen after the proposal was blocked by head teachers.

They are believed to have rejected the idea because it would potentially jeopardise funding from the Government's new Pupil Premium regime.

Part of the qualifying criteria for the funding is based on the number of pupils from low-income families entitled to free school meals.

Councillor Phil Webster cabinet member for finance, said: "It was our wish to reduce the price of school meals in primary schools but it would have only happened if we had managed to get the agreement of head teachers.

"We can't force them to take part and, unfortunately, it's not going to happen.

"We did manage to reverse the budget proposals put forward last year to increase the price of a meal to £1.60 and that shouldn't be forgotten.

"The money is still there and has been put back into the pot to spend on other things."

Education portfolio holder Councillor Helene O'Mullane said head teachers were concerned about the impact of any price cut on their Pupil Premium funding.

She said: "As a council, we can only work with head teachers and schools."

But former council leader Councillor Colin Inglis, who initiated a three-year pilot scheme that provided free school meals for all primary pupils in Hull, said the decision was a smack in the face for democracy.

He said: "As a group, we campaigned on this issue at the elections and were duly elected by the people of Hull on that basis.

"Now, we have a group of unelected, unaccountable head teachers deciding they don't want to go along with the wishes of the electorate."

A new report on the council's current financial position suggests the money allocated to subsidise a reduction in school meal prices could now be used to offset overspending by the authority's children and young people service (CYPS).

In the report, the council's head of finance Brendan Arnold says: "The CYPS position assumes that £1 million allocated by members in relation to school meals may, in practice, be used for general purposes.

"This has not been agreed formally and if it is not then the CYPS financial forecast will worsen accordingly."

Current forecasts suggest the department, which covers education and children's social care, could overspend by at least £3.1 million this year.

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  • Profile image for Donna_Kebab1

    by Donna_Kebab1

    Friday, October 05 2012, 12:56PM

    “I fully agree with Ice warrior and cantstandu is obviously out of this world people didn't vote for Labour I for one didn't I voted against this government and now wish I hadn't having heard the rubbish this Labour council are spouting. All they have done is put off the inevitable they are planning to cut jobs just like the last lot they promised to keep people employed and have lied. Whats more I do think the uniform allowance should be kept for those in difficulties at an increased level not cut and don't understand if you can afford to lower school meal prices then don't you can afford to keep the school uniform allowance for those in need.”

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    by ice_warrior

    Friday, October 05 2012, 9:49AM

    “Colininglis you demonstarte nothing for contempt for Head Teachers in your response. You really must be a mate of our Mr Gove, he talks a load of tosh as well.
    the reality yes labour won the election, mind you that says nothing you had no opposition. You could put a red rossette on a hat stand in Hull and the people of Hull would vote for it! In saying that your leader Councillor Brady is one of the few politicians i have any time for, he actually talks sense unlike you.
    You clearly know absolutely nothing about the way schools are run if you say headteachers are not accountable and as a Chair of Governors one one large school and a governor of one of the best schools in Hull i do know how schools are run.
    Heads do know whaty their students go thorough and how many are suffering which is why they need to obtain the best deal for thier schools they can, let them get on with it!”

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    by cantstandu

    Thursday, October 04 2012, 8:25PM

    “Hull people voted for this and the Head teachers who dont live in Hull ignored us all, who do they really think they are.”

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    by ErnestDeadman

    Thursday, October 04 2012, 4:38PM

    “You can see can't you, nothing to help those in difficulty they are going use this money to offset the deficit rather than help those in need. They would rather give money to those who are working than those who in these bad times are really down on their heels. Cllr Inglis you are once again in the wrong and most people can see how silly your idea is, it is time you and yours developed some compassion rather than thinking you won because of your ideas, you won because of a backlash against the Government, not for your manifesto.”

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    by ErnestDeadman

    Thursday, October 04 2012, 4:18PM

    “Can I suggest Cllrs Webster and Brady that you instead of stopping uniform allowance which is for those who are poor and automatically registers you for free school meals when claimed. You bring it back and pay £30 in the summer and £20 at New Year and £20 at Easter so that all those on benefits can claim some help and we are fully registered for to get the pupil premium, rather than helping those with a job!”

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    by intheknow

    Wednesday, October 03 2012, 6:22PM

    “This story is completely inaccurate. Primary Headteachers agreed to the reduction of school dinners to £1 last January.”

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    by Gaia69

    Wednesday, October 03 2012, 3:47PM

    “@David-Nivea...

    That one worked on JetmansDad. I think you upset him a bit. Could you use two, or maybe, even three sentences next time?

    Regardless of whether we agree with you or not - you do have a right to post and comment - don't you?”

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    by ColinInglis

    Wednesday, October 03 2012, 3:43PM

    “If the level of Pupil Premium funding is affected by the numbers claiming Free School Meals then how does a reduction in price for those still paying have any impact at all. The argument is illogical. Those who can claim the meals for free and do because they are on certain benefits will surely continue to do so even if the price is only 1p, unless they are incredibly altruistic!
    The reality is that Labour won a majority at the last election with, as part of their programme, a pledge to reduce the price of Primary School meals, no matter how much some commentators on here dislike that democratic outcome. Headteachers are elected by nobody and whilst they are theoretically responsible to their Governing bodies, anyone with any experience of that system would know it is a somewhat questionable relationship. For them to effectively veto the implementation of a Manifesto commitment is an affront to Democracy.
    The real impact of this is on working families struggling to keep their heads above water in these difficult economic times and Headteachers more than any others should recognise that fact, since they see such people everyday, even if their considerable salaries do insulate them somewhat from the economic realities many of those parents face.
    Those saying that if you can't pay for your children don't have them, are putting an incredibly fatuous argument and should really work harder on developing a little humanity. Circumstances change in people's lives without their being able to control that and in any case is having children to be restricted only to the rich?
    I had hoped that the debate with Headteachers about the benefits to children's education generally of a healthy nutritious meal at lunch-time had been won but it seems there is still some way to go.”

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    by JetmansDad

    Wednesday, October 03 2012, 2:35PM

    “Yes David_Nivea, and a lot can happen in the five years between having them and them starting school. With the rise in unemployment, and reduction in working hours in this area over the last few years, there are many parents who were more than capable of feeding their children when they had them but now find themselves struggling to do so as prices continue to rise and income falls.

    All of life cannot be boiled down into single sentence comments on newspaper websites, you know.”

  • Profile image for David_Nivea

    by David_Nivea

    Wednesday, October 03 2012, 11:15AM

    “Don't have 'em if you can't afford to feed 'em, which is a fairly basic requirement of offspring production.”

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