Hull and East Riding GCSE league tables released

“@ HMDMlogon
I assure you, I am not the Headmaster at Hymers! Take a look at their website, click on the "Publications" tab, and you'll find all this information and lots, lots more.”

“Are you the headteacher? As that is the only way you could have access to the information you are claiming?

State secondary schools do not sit end of year exams - you are simply incorrect. Only private schools. I'm not going to pursue this, Google is at your fingertips.

As a teacher, one of the things we encourage children to do is to always produce evidence to support their points and try to destroy the parent taught trait of making any wild statement that suits your agenda without looking into whether or not it is true.

We also don't baby them by telling them things they can easily find out for themselves.”

“HDM logon:
Where on earth are you getting your information from? Hymers pupils do indeed sit internal end of year exams each year (as is the case with nearly every school, independent or maintained, throughout the country). If a pupil does badly in these exams, the school works to support them and to help them to improve; in no case has a pupil EVER been removed from the school as a result of poor academic performance.”

“Canonalberic -

Hymers pupils sit exams at the end of each year, and anyone who doesn't make the grade is out - this is not the sytem of state secondaries where all pupils are included regardless of achievement - so I don't see how you can realistically challenge a private school's selection process when this is par for the course in private schools - and believe me, if one slips through the net, and that pupil isn;t going to achieve they are either removed from the school and not entered.
Luckily, your kids don't seem to be in this bracket, so just because your kids go there it's unlikely you'd be aware of such practices as a parent and removal for low achievement is not something a paid for service would advertise.
As for your comment, 'Do you really think that parents would pay for their children to go to the school if there was a chance that they'd be told that their children aren't allowed to take their exams?' this shows a massive misconception about education and a parent's role within it. You cannot buy your child's education - you have to teach them to grab it with it both hands and being more affluent is no indicator that thye have they intelligence or the right attitude. At university, I shared my class with the children of millionaires and famous people - they were the ones paying people to do theur essays for them.
Also, your final comments are wrong and you don;t understand the school league table system - private schools are never included in this and their results are shown quite outside the pass rate of secondary schools so your theory doesn't hold water. I know of a pupil at Hull Grammar who was not entered for her exams because after a contribution of £3000 per term she couldn't care less about education and her parents had to just swallow that as there is no way a private school would allow that to happen. I also know a girl at Hymers whose parents are called in constantly and attempts to persuade them to move her to a Hull school are made - they resist and are told ok, if she makes the grade!
So, you're right in your assumption that private education is a higher standard - it is, and I am pleased you are lucky enough to give your kids that chance - make sure they grab it with both hands. But the suggestion that anyone who pays for it van have a top grade is just naive and incorrect.”

“HDMlogon:
As a parent of two children at Hymers, I can say that what you allege is categorically untrue: all pupils are entered for examination in all subjects that they are studying. Do you really think that parents would pay for their children to go to the school if there was a chance that they'd be told that their children aren't allowed to take their exams? In any case, the government league tables record the percentage of students at a given school gaining the required 5 A-C grades including English and Maths; failing to enter students would mean that those students would appear in the statistics as failing to make the grade. For a school to achieve the 100% stat, EVERY pupil in that year's cohort must have made the grade.”

“Marmadukelad
So are you saying the likes of kimin are more concerned about where Hull apears on a graph, than the standard of education recieved by the Children of Hull.”

“HDMlogon. Spot on”

“worker111.
It does not get them a better education, it makes the stats that many think are important, more realistic.”

“Profanity,
To have a child studying for a degree and another "destined for better" is comforting it is however a long way off success, as the parents of three delightful, well educated young adults we are never smug. Our children have never ceased to surprise us and we would never predict their destiny.”

“It is still a poor reflection on both East Riding and Hull local authorities!”