Hull FC: 'Getting close to top Super League sides not enough', says Shannon McDonnell

“3biiesgalore- what you on about, i haven't left anyone out of anything. i'm just stating , that, without a dominant pack a back line player whether it a winger or a halve aren't usually dominant.so why is it that people nearly always pick a back as their choice of greatest player.
i just named a pack from 1982 that gb still to this day have hardly if ever matched. that pack was an insight into where rl was going and gb got left behind and have kept falling behind ever since.”

“3iesgalore, your right about Arthur Keegan kicking the most goals on a loosing side at that time in the 1959 final, but what you said about Tommy Sutton playing in that final is wrong as it was the next year in the 1960 final against Wakefield Trinity but although Tommy Sutton did play against Wakefied he was not the player that made is debut but it was Mike Smth who played alongside Sutton in he 2nd row and made is debut at Wmbley 1960 due to the many injuries FC had at th time , i think FCs pack was Scott, Harris, Evans, Smith, Sutton and John Whiteley, this was the game when Tommy Harris i believe became the 1st player on the loosing side to win the lance todd trophy because he had a great game and finished up having to leave the field eventually due to being injured in that final yet he still won the L/T/Trophy being outstanding in the game also dspite FC loosing 38-5 Mike Smith on his debut played very well also, Ray FC.”

“ray those 5 goals at the time by keegan,were a record by a player on the losing side at the time at wembley,that was the match that tommy sutton played for hullfc in his first game for hullfc from the amateur ranks in local rugby league,and went straight into the team from the local league,because 11 of the hullfc side were injured at the time.”

“easthull 11,why leave out mal meninga,he just happened to be a great back,but lockyer was an organiser,as well as being a great player.”

“phil lowe,scored many long range tries while with rovers in the late 60s early 70s,and i have to say, i havnt seen many british second rows better than phil lowe, before he went to play in aussie.”

“B692345,you will find he(Mcmenemy) played a big part in setting up the position from which cookie scored the try that helped make the final win possible,but as you say he was injured and never really recovered from that,so sharp dispensed with his services,always rated that fella,loose fd or second row, never let the side down,once he left hullfc i lost track of were he went to,and wonder was it back to aussie,he spoke of retirement after hullfc,i wonder if he carried that out,he was a good signing by Mcrea,from halifax”

“Rocket Rod Reddy
remember his try against us at the Boulevard.Thats how a second row should be able to run.”

“wellens is probably a throw back to whe the f.b. was able to defend as the last line of defence.

as for the greatest players,why do people always pick a back? surely a mal reilly or a ray price as examples, should be chosen. as we all know your halves and backs are practically nullified by a **** set of forwards.

i bet any of todays backline would love boyd, krilich and roach as their front row with pearce , reddy and price behind that front row.”

“3biesgalore

Hey missed that. I cut and pasted from the FC archives and should have spotted that omission.

Yeah he played on until he got injured at Wakefield, I think, in 2007. I know he had an op on his shoulder which didnt go too well and had to be repeated I think. Played a great role in the Challenge Cup with some good kicking.”

“it should have said that Arthur Keegan kicked 5 goals for FC at Wembley in the 1959 RL Cup Final against Wigan, RayFC.”