Hull has more volunteers, but are unpaid workers replacing staff?

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Friday, February 10, 2012
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VOLUNTEERING in Hull saw a sharp rise last year, sparking fears employers are replacing staff with unpaid workers.

Inquiries about volunteering in Hull shot up by 45 per cent in 2011.

A total of 7,000 people approached Hull Community and Voluntary Services (CVS) to find placements.

More than half were aged 16 to 25 and 45 per cent were unemployed, up from 39 per cent in 2010.

This comes after a year in which the number of people unemployed in the city rose by 1,693 to 14,753, with youth unemployment at a 17-year high.

Volunteering bodies claim it is a positive sign and will help people develop new skills and get back into work.

However, unions are worried cash-strapped organisations are using volunteers in place of paid employees.

Les Dobbs, of the GMB union, said: "It has been a concern of the trade unions for a long time. We've had volunteers providing things like care to the elderly, which should be carried out by social services.

"The way we look at it is if it is a job then it should be a paid job.

"If you are talking about public services, it should be the responsibility of the local authority."

But people involved in volunteer work argue it opens new opportunities and gives them a chance to thrive in new environments.

Tom Grealy, the head of Hull CVS, said his team are extremely careful to vet partner organisations to ensure they are not using volunteers in place of paid staff.

The number of organisations registered with Hull CVS has risen from 200 to about 350 in recent years.

Mr Grealy said: "We are clear that volunteering is not job substitution.

"Lots of people come into volunteering once they have retired.

"When an agency comes to us to recruit volunteers they have to provide a lot of details to show clearly they are not doing it as staff replacement."

In 2010, the GMB clashed with East Riding Council, which was threatening to replace 90 mobile care wardens, who look after 15,000 vulnerable and elderly people, with volunteers.

The plans were eventually dropped.

Councils rely on volunteers to help them run libraries, museums, galleries and events.

Volunteering is viewed by some as a good way to eventually get a paid position.

Mark Barton, 25, of Ings Road, started volunteering at Hull CVS as a mentor for their volunteer support project in March last year.

He is now a fully paid project facilitator on the Neet (Not in Employment, Education or Training) unemployed project.

Mark said: "I wasn't in work when I started volunteering, but now I am a fully paid employee at the company. I had been working with vulnerable adults as a volunteer, so when the opportunity came up on the Neets project they offered it to me because they were confident of my commitment and ability to perform whatever job necessary.

"As a volunteer, I mentored and assisted with training in the voluntary support project.

"I was working with a client who had additional support needs helping from them opportunities. The transformation in him was really positive. He is now not only volunteering but also looking for full-time employment."

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  • Profile image for dontwo

    by dontwo

    Friday, February 10 2012, 10:20PM

    “Exploitation, taking advantage of peoples good nature.”

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    by dlscaiwgh

    Friday, February 10 2012, 8:43PM

    “Shaddix I have worked in Charity Shops and I know that what you say is true. I have seen others perfectly able to do the job for free but as soon as it is a paid job it goes to a friend or family member of the charity bosses.”

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    by Grufflegran

    Friday, February 10 2012, 8:23PM

    “Volunteering shows commitment and is a very good tool to use on your C.V. when seeking work. It adds to your skills, demonstrates motivation and commitment, and offers a sense of purpose, which in turn awards you self-esteem and a drive to keep on battling for paid employment. Looking for paid work when there are so many applicants per job can be de-motivating, demeaning, demoralising and lead a person to depression in some cases.

    Hull CVS have honoured this young man's commitment by employing him, knowing that he is there to do a good job because they have trained and monitored his progression and know, from his commitment, that he is not there just to get through the days until pay day. I cannot applaud this young man and the Hull CVS enough as this is a happy ending all round. As Mr Tom Grealy says Hull CVS have initiated a vetting system for companies who offer voluntary placements. This also shows a duty of care to their clients.

    If companies exploit the use of voluntary workers they should be identified, penalised and regulated and not allowed to use volunteers, rather than using Hull CVS as an example. In my experience the Hull CVS (Community Voluntary Service) has helped many, many people over the years. I worked (voluntarily) with them many years ago helping disadvantaged children. I later pursued a career in this line of work. They should be allowed to continue to do their good work without this sort of criticism.

    Congratulations to Mark Barton for using his time effectively!”

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    by Mark_Hull_65

    Friday, February 10 2012, 7:19PM

    “@FreeWilly....

    "But surely it is better to be doing something, that may give you new skills or even meet contacts"

    You might have a point in some cases but it depends very much on the job in question.

    There can be no justification for forcing people in to doing six months or a year of 'work placement' working behind the till or stacking shelves in a shop . Without wishing to denigrate the fine and essential work that shop workers do it just doesn't take that long to learn the job. I've been a 'jack of all trades master of some' all my working life and half of the jobs I've had have taken one day of training or less. Maybe it's just me but I seem to remember that not long ago you could just bull**it your way in to a job and just hope you could bluff your way through the first few days and hope nobody noticed you didn't have a clue what you were doing.

    There's a whole private industry getting rich by providing low cost training for jobs that don't really need any training at all including a4e who's record was described yesterday by the public account committee as 'abysmal'

    http://tinyurl.com/6shcpe6

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    by Justincayse

    Friday, February 10 2012, 6:40PM

    “I personally think the unions should back off on this one, it is clear from the stats that young people are actually getting out there and doing something instead of watching TV all day, good on them I say!
    If more people realised that if you show willing there is a considerably better chance of attaining proper paid work.
    I for one always offered my services for free when I was between paid jobs, I had a very interesting time, made lots of friends and gained a massive amount of experience that I still call upon today.
    I also always offered employers a free week of my time to prove my abilities. Its win win, I always got myself a job because of it!”

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    by FreeWillie

    Friday, February 10 2012, 3:19PM

    “Nishy2012, "I've done schemes on benefits and how are you supposed to pay for meals etc or do they expect you to starve whilst doing this free work". Do I take it that you don't usually eat then, when not involved in one of these schemes?”

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    by gavmondo

    Friday, February 10 2012, 2:45PM

    “It appears some people are mistaking the difference between work trials and the old Youth Training Schemes for volunteering. As previously posted if run properly volunteers would compliment the work of paid workers not take their jobs.”

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    by joy2010

    Friday, February 10 2012, 2:31PM

    “you only have to look at the councils waste management service,last year,job losses,this year people working for nothing except bus fares.This is nothing new at waste management,it went on for years under the new deal,6 months training with promise of job at the end,the thing was jobs never really materialised.Also,i might be wrong but is it true if your on benefits and refuse to work for no pay you lose your benefits?”

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    by Nishy2012

    Friday, February 10 2012, 2:30PM

    “Getting people to work for nothing is just one step up from the reintroduction of the workhouse, I've done schemes on benefits and how are you supposed to pay for meals etc or do they expect you to starve whilst doing this free work”

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    by gavmondo

    Friday, February 10 2012, 2:18PM

    “If organisations had properly set up volunteer programmes the unions should not have any problems. Volunteering should be used to compliment the work of paid staff members and not used to replace paid workers and any project worth its salt will abide by the laws set out for volunteer involvement. I am a volunteer manager for a local charity and before this job i drove HGV's for 48 hours per week and volunteered every Saturday in Grimsby for 2 Years. The reason i had to take this route was because to retrain for another career i would have had to leave my full time job with no assistance to help pay the mortgage etc. Volunterring should never be under estimated however what i will ask any potential volunteers to consider, is the organisation adequatly set up for volunteer involvement ie are expenses paid? will the volunteer be offered supervision and guidance in order to develop their skills? If your unsure that the volunteer position is fit for purpose visit the volunteering England Website or easier still contact Hull CVS. The biggest problem is Mr Cameron who believes that we all should be doing our bit "big society" however he under estimates the actual costs for running such projects”

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