Hundreds of Hull council tenants swapping homes on Facebook

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Wednesday, April 25, 2012
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HUNDREDS of council tenants are swapping their houses with each other on Facebook.

Users of the social networking site claim the council's bidding system is out of date, prompting them to arrange their own moves.

  1. TAKING ACTION:  Council house tenants in Hull are using Facebook to swap their homes.

    TAKING ACTION: Council house tenants in Hull are using Facebook to swap their homes.

Councilexchange Hull has more than 1,000 subscribers on Facebook who use the page to advertise their house and tell others what type of property they are looking for.

The group was set up by council house tenant Rachel Smith, 22.

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She said: "I've been looking to move for six months and I've tried everything but wasn't getting anywhere so thought I'd set something up on Facebook.

"I lived in Hawthorne Avenue but my house got knocked down and I got moved to Longhill.

"All my family and friends live in west Hull and now I've got to spend two hours a day on a bus to get to work and back, which isn't ideal."

Once a swap has been agreed on Facebook, tenants would have to contact the council to authorise the exchange officially.

Hull council tenants can sign up to an official swapping website called Council House Exchange to arrange official house swaps.

The service helps tenants who want to move by matching them with others who are looking to swap – either within Hull or in other parts of the UK.

However, Miss Smith said the site is slow and out of date.

She said: "There's not a lot of information on there, I e-mailed more than 50 people and didn't get one reply but on Facebook, it's instant replies."

Lisa Garrod, 38, who is trying to swap her two-bedroom house in west Hull for a three-bedroom house, said: "It's great that this page was created independently. This is what it comes to. Someone has to take matters in their own hands to try to get something sorted.

"In the area I live in, it is mostly pensioners living in three-bedroom houses because they have lived there all their adult life but now their families have grown up and left they no longer need that room.

"I've got my one-year-old daughter in my bedroom with me because my 14-year-old son is in the other room and he is too old to share with her.

"I bid for houses every fortnight and use the council exchange website but don't get anywhere.

"It's easier on Facebook because it is instant and you can message people straight away."

Hull City Council's head of physical regeneration Laura Carr said tenants are welcome to find their own swaps.

She said: "We recommend tenants use the House Exchange website however, tenants are able to find matches themselves if they wish by advertising in shops or, as in this case, on Facebook, but would still have to follow the council system once they had found someone to exchange with."

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  • Profile image for Donkeydan

    by Donkeydan

    Thursday, April 26 2012, 2:03PM

    “Mark_65_Hull, I dont totally disagree with all what you are saying - espcially "the good times when you could make money on property". The problem now is that rental prices are going higher than mortgaes and in most cases it would be cheaper to buy. Rental money is also "dead money". If the goverment cap the amount of benefits paid then people like you down South are going to find it difficult to even rent, this is why some councils in the south are trying to do this "cleansing". Rental is also for life, a mortgage is 25 years with something that is worth something at the end. Have you ever met a poor Landlord?”

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    by Mark_Hull_65

    Thursday, April 26 2012, 1:10PM

    “Yes, renting is still the better option in many cases, particularly for people on low wages who would have to skint themselves to pay a mortgage. We were lucky, we bought for £20,000 and sold on after absolutely insane house inflation. I'm not talking about a 3 bedroom mansion, this was a pokey 1 1/2 bedroom broom cupboard. Quite honestly anybody who paid £100,000 for that is an idiot. As I say... We were lucky, very, very lucky. The chances of pulling off the same trick now are pretty minimal.

    As for the business my skill-set was overtaken by cheap and virtually disposable computer technology. It's OK being one of the handful of service engineers who can keep obsolete machinery working but when the whole industry dies almost over night you either hang on until the grim death hoping a lucrative job comes along now and again or you get out of the business and move on to something else. I did the latter.

    .”

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    by Donkeydan

    Thursday, April 26 2012, 8:41AM

    “Mark_65_Hull,
    "Just to annoy you even more I'll let you in to a secret. Before I moved to Hull I sold the house me and my ex bought (and paid for in 9 years) for £80,000 profit and walked away with my share and spent a glorious summer lounging about in beer gardens with friends soaking up the sun and wondering what else I could squander my money on."

    And you say renting is a better option - not difficult to see why you are not still self employed!”

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    by Charleychuck

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 7:22PM

    “Mark-hull-65 That would be rank hypocricy , ignorance, negativity, and bigotry. Tennants taking charge and DIYing. Good for them , and Lisa , I know what you mean even though you have been missquoted. I'm a home owner, my choice.”

  • Profile image for Mark_Hull_65

    by Mark_Hull_65

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 6:42PM

    “Never mind the people out of work Tommy, they are just scum.

    One of the true delights of this comments section is the way people will pledge their undying support for the workers of BAe / Comet / random caravan makers right up until the moment they actually claim the benefits they have been paying National Insurance and taxes towards and then they be come sub-human leeches on society. The rank hypocrisy on here is breathtaking at times.”

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    by Mark_Hull_65

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 6:37PM

    “@ Donkeybrain.

    Just FYI you might be comforted by the fact I worked more or less solidly from the age of 16 to 42 including at times three jobs at once and for a while ran my own business supplementing my income by driving HGVs on slow days and weekends so spare me the poor tax-payer routine.

    Just to annoy you even more I'll let you in to a secret. Before I moved to Hull I sold the house me and my ex bought (and paid for in 9 years) for £80,000 profit and walked away with my share and spent a glorious summer lounging about in beer gardens with friends soaking up the sun and wondering what else I could squander my money on.

    Oh well, those heady days are in the past now and all I have to my name is what you the great British tax payer graciously gives me.

    That's it for now, I have to go and throw a few more tenners on the fire and get the butler to take my quail's eggs in aspic out of the fridge..

    Thanks taxpayer.”

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    by 1Tommygunn

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 5:01PM

    “This rent or buy thing is a load of old rot. This country had been brainashed by the finaniers into getting into unaffordable debt for most of their lives. Led to belive it's the only alternative. Many landlords ain't worth a light as far as repairs go. They get cowboys to do most of 'em. In my own case I rent because when I move, for work, I don't have to mess around selling a house. As for changes to schooling, well kids are more adaptable than their moaning parents are; especially if it means leaving a rubbish school. Renting has good points.
    Of course, if your a buyer and come out of work, the benefits and tax payer end up picking up the bill.”

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    by Donkeydan

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 2:18PM

    “Mark_Hull_65,

    Homeowners (for which read 'in hock to the bank for 25 years') can be so smug right up to the point where the rented sector get something they don't, like repairs paid for by the landlord, and then they start whining. If you don't like the cost of buying and maintaining a house then rent or shut up with the moaning."

    Thats a bit rich coming from somebody who lives off benefits, the people who have mortgages pay tax for your way of life!”

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    by Mark_Hull_65

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 1:05PM

    “@ Tommy...

    "So, what are you getting at. I can't tell if you're jealous, angry, disappointed or what."

    A bit of all three I suspect.

    Homeowners (for which read 'in hock to the bank for 25 years') can be so smug right up to the point where the rented sector get something they don't, like repairs paid for by the landlord, and then they start whining. If you don't like the cost of buying and maintaining a house then rent or shut up with the moaning.”

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    by lisahull38

    Wednesday, April 25 2012, 1:02PM

    “Before people think i'm gunning to get pensioners out of their homes, this is what i actually quoted in this piece before it was cut to suit:

    "It's great that this page was created independently, this is what it comes to that someone has to take matters in their own hands to try and get something sorted because the council aren't interested in doing anything to help.
    "If they used their common sense they would encourage people who no longer need their three bedroomed houses but wish to stay in the same area to exchange with others in that area that need bigger housing.
    "In the area I live in it is mostly pensioners living in three bedroomed houses basically because they have lived their all their adult life but now their families have grown up and left they no longer need that room."


    Lisa Garrod 38”

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