KC Stadium at 10: 'People were dubious, but it has paid off big-style for Hull'
As the KC Stadium celebrates its 10th anniversary, Angus Young talks to Councillor Tom McVie, one of the political architects behind the development.
"ABOVE all, it is a beacon of hope, a vindication of those who believe in the future of our great city and a crushing indictment of the blinkered critics who constantly knock Hull."
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Beacon: The KC Stadium
Written ten years ago, the words belong to former Hull City Council leader Pat Doyle.
They accompanied a special book marking the opening of the KC Stadium and the dawn of an exciting new era for Hull as a sporting city.
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A decade on, the stadium remains a remarkable one-off.
Funded entirely by the city council through its windfall from partial flotation of Kingston Communications in 1999, it was built on time and within budget.
Crucially, it also opened debt-free.
Those often overlooked facts raise a smile from Councillor Tom McVie, one of the political architects behind the stadium.
He was a member of a special council sub-committee which helped steer the project from the drawing board to reality.
As a season ticket holder for both Hull City and Hull FC, he's also passionate about what goes on there most weekends of the year.
"I would say the stadium has absolutely delivered, 100 per cent," he said.
"It is one of the best things the council has ever done and remains a testimony to the long-term vision of Pat Doyle because it was really his idea.
"Quite a lot of people at the time were dubious about it but Pat put forward a convincing argument for it to happen in the way it did.
"I think it has paid off big-style."
The windfall also allowed the authority to splash the cash on installing new double glazing and central heating in thousands of council properties across the city and build Endeavour School in Beverley Road.
But the spectacular stadium rising from the former Circle cricket ground next to West Park hogged most of the headlines.
"Because of the money from the flotation it was quite an unusual time and one which, as a council, we are unlikely to see again in the near future," said Cllr McVie.
"In that respect, it was a one-off opportunity for the council."
Addressing the financial plight of the two professional clubs now based at the KC was one of the motivations behind the stadium development.
"It's easy to forget how desperate things were for both City and Hull FC at the time," said Cllr McVie.
"By ensuring their future at a debt-free stadium owned by the council meant we would never again have a situation where gates were clubs were being locked out of grounds or being forced into mergers just to survive.
"It's also easy to forget the stadium came in on time and within budget. Compare that with what we have seen with other big stadium projects since then.
"I take a great degree of satisfaction about the financial model we used for the stadium after dealing with certain government departments and other funding bodies who refused to have anything to do with it at the time because they claimed it would never work."
More KC Stadium memories
• Steve Melton on scoring the first goal
• Dean Windass on his favourite KC Stadium moments
• Nick Barmby: Feel-good KC Stadium set stage for Premier League heroics
• It's better than Wembley, says Kirk Yeaman
• Adam Pearson: KC has been huge catalyst
On the sporting front, he is convinced the KC has helped transform the fortunes of both Hull City and Hull FC.
"Adam Pearson (former City chairman and now FC chief executive) said when he first came to Hull that he made up his made to come here because the stadium was being built," he said.
"He saw the potential and the rest is now history.
"I am certain that Hull City getting into the Premier League would not have happened without the KC.
"We have also see some great international matches being played there too."
Another ambition for the stadium was for it to act as trigger for wider regeneration in west Hull.
A question mark still remains over whether this has been achieved.
"The regeneration probably hasn't happened as quickly as we would have liked," said Cllr McVie.
"Without getting too political, there have been funding problems along the way but there has been regeneration.
"The stadium itself still looks the part and the facilities in West Park were improved tremendously as part of the overall development.
"As a location, I think it works and because of where it is I believe we have managed to attract more people for overnight visits because it is so close to the city centre.
"If I remember rightly, the second choice for a site was Costello and I'm glad it didn't go there because it is too remote from the city centre.
"There is still potential for development near the stadium but I accept the current economic climate is probably against that at the moment."
In time, he says he would like to see the return of major music concerts at the venue.
"We've had the likes of Elton John, REM and Bon Jovi come to Hull to play at the stadium and it would be great if the concerts could start again."




Comments
by Zeppo
Friday, December 21 2012, 5:16PM
“Not sure that this terracing idea will significantly increase capacity.
It will not be like the good old days .
The pictures and examples i have sen from Germany seem to take a lot of room and are similar to stading in your current seat.
Still access along a row and can not move up or down between rows.
Will probably add 2000 at the most as only one stand or part of one stand will be converted.”
by edinburghyork
Friday, December 21 2012, 6:52AM
“hullfc,are perfectly entitled to claim established 1865,and still trade as hullfc,established 1865.lets face it,how many well known big companies have been bought out,and still trade under their original name,such as nestles,cadburys and rowntrees.i have just made all my funeral arrangements,with a very old undertaking firm,but i didn`t know they where part of a nation wide conglomerate,untill the paper work came through.obviously the local firm had been taken over,but where still trading under the original name as the founders.”
by dextertexter
Thursday, December 20 2012, 9:29PM
“kempton,maybe the council had more vision about the kc than even you eh,average of 18000 this season try again,maybe they just didnt want to waste the peoples money, on such unreliability dont you think dumbell.”
by dextertexter
Thursday, December 20 2012, 9:14PM
“kempton,just to correct your incorrect statement that the derby has never never sold out,there was a saying once in hull,(WILL THE LAST ONE OUT TURN OFF THE LIGHTS),that sold out for that derby”
by dextertexter
Thursday, December 20 2012, 8:49PM
“KEMPTON,so whos the idiot now you thick tw-t”
by dextertexter
Thursday, December 20 2012, 8:24PM
“and the name of the other side involved in that attendance of 53,000 was rotherham utd their fellow promotion rivals who headed the table at the time,raich carter was hulls player manager idiot”
by dextertexter
Thursday, December 20 2012, 8:18PM
“this KEMPTON idiot the clown,just happens that hullfc were a viable club when the so called merger took place,fact is hullfcs crowds in the time that lloyd was in charge were in fact more than the 3000 you untruthfully state ive always called you a liar and i know that to be fact even under your new phony guise theres no mistaking an idiot called bridrobin,harbourlites,to whom it seems lying is so habitual its frightening,hullfc were still called hullfc before and after the merger so called because of the arrival of the gateshead contingent,the club gateshead did not fold but they continued under under a different ownership that same season,they closed down the following season,citing lack of support as their reason for doing so,regarding the owners of hullfc they took over at hull still trading under the name of the former club,simply because that was the name they were trading under dipstick,you dont possibly think that they could take over at hullfc under any other name do you,your definetly a clown of the highest order your stupid,whos bothered what the name of the board was the club still had its identity HULLFC Est 1865,their was a time that you used to state that hullfc were heavily in debt and the boulrvard was sold off to pay those debts,the fact was that the boulevard was owned by lloyd who offered it to the council at a price of £750,000,stating that if the council bought the ground at that price,then when he departed he would pay off hullfcs debts leaving them as a viable club,waiting for any willing investor to walk in and take it over,and that was the reason roy waudby offered to step back in and take over but only if they were voted into the lower league the northern ford also habited by a very poor hkr who in turn voted against the admittance to that league,that was the reason that roy waudby pulled out of the offer to take over again at hullfc in superleague,that and his ill health at that time,im no idiot you stupid phoney,who will you be posting has tomorrow you idiot,then he cites that hullfc only get the crowds when playing the top sides.then stupidly quotes that hull city on a level playing field in the premier league filled the ground every match,we all know that you idiot they had 19000 passholders before a match in that division ever took place you idiot,didnt you know that fact stupid,just another fact idiot hullcitys highest ever attendance at boothferry park was 55,000 against MAN UTD in a cup match in which they were beaten 1-0,the highest ever league attendance at that venue was 53,000 not the 37000 that you incorrectly state,the 53000 attendace was on a boxing day ans is still a record for a 3rd div att,the score was in hull citys favour being 5-3 after willie retook two penalties and scored both only on the second attempt.on another misinformed statement about the biggest derby in the world has not sold out once,then if your prepared to put your money were your big gob is (somewhere near your backside )ill bet you that it has now name the amount gobby”
by Fogeyspasm
Thursday, December 20 2012, 12:33PM
“And for those that don't care whether we have a football or rugby teams?
I suppose at least we get a dodgy market on the car park!”
by DazWillerby
Thursday, December 20 2012, 10:54AM
“Allam is bluffing, he won't and can't take Hull City to Welton. Firstly the planning process would take a couple of years (and he's not guaranteed to get permission) and then another to build a stadium. In gaining planning approval he would need to fund the construction of a new grade seperated junction off the A63 and a bridge/tunnel over/under the rail track, those two alone would cost millions and that's before building the stadium!! Add to that the fact that he would be taking a massive gamble pumping millions into a project over several years on the back of gambling HCAFC stay in the Premiership and you'll see that it will never happen. He got a bloody good deal when he took over HCAFC. He bought out the clubs debt not with a lump sum but on the back of his assets. He says it costs him £60K a week to keep the club running (paying off debts and wages) so when our two highly paid players Olly and McShane go at the end of the season he will have a football club either in the premiership or looking to be in it the next season for £10K a week. We go up and he will be quids in!! Allam wants the stadium for nothing to then mortgage it to fund a casino and hotel (forget the sport facilities that's a smoke screen) and that's why he won't but plans on the table for all to see. HCAFC are going nowhere and I'm glad becuase the last time someone owned the ground we ended up being locked out!!!!”
by kempton
Thursday, December 20 2012, 10:00AM
“I see Dextertexter is confiming his reputation amongst posters as an idiot.
He goes on about crowds. It was not that long ago that the HDM didn't publish Rovers crowds, which were under 2,000. FC in the top flight were getting 3,000. Which was why they were taken over by Gateshead. And they were taken over by Gateshead, registered as "Gateshead trading as Hull FC". Before being taken over again.
To get back to crowds, FC's highest ever average was 14,000, set at the KC. City's had 16,000 in Division 4 at the KC, although their highest ever was at BP, 37,000 in the old Division 3.
Yet this clown reckons people only come to see the opposition. Of course opposition doesn't make any difference to FC's gates, does it? They get as many for the visits of Catalan and London as they do for Leeds, Wigan and St Helen's, don't they?
The fact is that on a level playing field, the top flight, City sold out their tickets for every game.
Whereas the biggest derby in the universe and everywhere else has never sold out once. The last couple of derbies have seen the KC have a third of the seats empty, the crowds nearly 2,000 less than City's average in a season of struggle and less than all but one season in the KC.
I would suggest Dexter goes away and reserves his rubbish for rugby related subjects.”