Man, 34, dies after his car hits a tree in East Yorkshire

“Well maintained roads are not dangerous and it is ridiculous to believe that a strip of tarmac can pose any threat to humans! You might as well say that mountains and cliffs are dangerous They are inanimate objects, the danger comes purely from people who misuse their vehicles through excessive speed, inattention or make mistakes, misjudgements or have equipment failure. A road, by definition just quietly lays there and it takes human involvement to cause danger!”

“I have ridden bikes for years, but have never been a 'biker', and have never said I was. The bikes have always been small capacity (250's and 125's), however, 60-70 mph on any bike regardless of size, if you lose it it hurts!! Yes I have fallen off few times, but that's down to me and not the road......

Why the AA refer to roads as being dangerous I don't know, you'll have to ask them.

Why the BBC do it is probably to sensationalise the program to entice more viewers to watch it, and they can then claim a result in the 'viewers wars' between the tv companies. They are a media company after all, just like the newspapers and magazines.

And also, if you actually read ALL of what I have posted, nowhere have I judged anybody for anything.”

“@HCAFCscrb wrore

"The most dangerous individual road was the A537 between Macclesfield, Cheshire, and Buxton, Derbyshire."

Ah the "Cat & Fiddle" There is nothing wrong with that road, it's just the way some folk drive / ride it. If you measure danger, purely by the head count it claims, yes it is dangerous.
It attracts a certain kind of person who goes there just to see how fast they can navigate it. Alas, make a mistake, & there are no run-off areas. Navigate it at regular speeds, & it is quite safe unless you get taken out by a boy racer coming the other way”

“* never drove a car or rode a bike..”

“southern chef

For you to say roads arent dangerous makes me think you have never drove or riden a bike in your life....... Either that or your just a simpleton

of course some roads are more dangerous then others.

HERE IS A QUOTE FROM THE AA......

"The most dangerous individual road was the A537 between Macclesfield, Cheshire, and Buxton, Derbyshire."

so southern chef even the AA recognise that some roads are more dangerous then others..

theres even a series on the BBC called the "worlds most dangerous roads. "



and yes ONLY AN IDIOT would judge what has happened in an accident with out FIRST knowing the facts....

DOH !”

“Roads are not dangerous, and that's a fact. Some may be deceptive in their visual appearance to the driver, but that's all.

Over recent years three people in my family have been killed in road crashes.

One due to a driver not giving way at a junction, one on a motorway where the motorway was packed and a number of cars drove straight off the sliproad without any regard to the traffic already there and caused a multiple pile-up, and one very young 18-year who thought she was the dogs' b's straightaway and a few weeks after passing her test smashed her car into a tree.

Please do not ever try and make out I am "holier than though", or unsympathetic, or have no feelings. I know what it's about, there has been more than enough grief and heartache in my family to last a lifetime. I am simply stating facts from my experience of life, which is very wide.

If anyone would care to actually read what I wrote instead of picking out a few words and joining the dots for yourselves you will note that I have already said "I am well aware of the tragic consequences of this sort of crash and the aftermath as I have personal experience of tragedies like this"

Yes this is a tragedy, yes someone has died, my sympathies are with the family as I know what is being felt.

As for animals causing crashes, I live and work in the countryside, my daily commute is 25 miles each way mainly on tiny unclassified roads through all sorts of terrain, I come across pheasant, deer, loose horses and sheep, my social life brings me on to moorland and forest tracks where cattle, sheep and horses roam free, plus anything else that is roaming around.

I have never hit one yet, nor have I been hit by any of them, although some have been a little close sometimes, you just have to be ready to react accordingly.

WAKE UP and see what is around you, read the road and the situation. Look at every part of the environment in front and to the side of you, read the road constantly, and you might just avoid another tragedy.

I come across potholes as big as craters on the moon, mud inches deep, deep lakes when it rains like a monsoon, I can easily cope with all of those, but the only real danger to me is the drivers coming the other way, who have no idea what they are doing, the ones who take bends on the wrong side of the road, the ones who overtake parked cars when there is no room at all to overtake.......

I'm not an 'only an idiot who would make a judgement while not knowing the facts about the event', I am pretty well experienced on most aspects of driving, and even after all the tragedy in my own family, I will still have the same opinion.

Oh, and yes, GP200, I have ridden motorbikes for years....”

“Some roads are dangerous and that's a fact.

Drivers just need to be extra careful at times.

Having said that, a man has died and that's tragic especially someone quite young.

Sympathy to the family...

Only an idiot would make a judgement while not knowing the facts about the event.

Even IF it was driver error it's still such a shame ..”

“I agree, sympathy needed here first, PeterAnlaby and sensational are quite right, let's have all the facts first before jumping to conclusions. I also agree with GP200.

Some drivers ought not to be on the road but until we know better - no comment.”

“Whatever the reason for this tragedy all the 'holier than thou-ers' might try a little sympathy here. It would be nice when the chap's family read it and think that the people of the City are with them at their sad time.”

“So pheasants don't cause accidents then ? I beg to differ, you tell my friend that when a pheasant flew out in front of him and knocked him off his bike near to Brough Golf Course and was off work for weeks due to broken wrist and he was well below the speed limit not driving like a loonatic. Right so if you are ever behind me on the N cave to Mkt Weighton road when I am on my motorbike then do not complain when I am only doing 20 mph on a 60 mph road as I am driving to the conditions of the road and do not want to hit a pothole. I hope you never hit a pothole in the dark ! is all I can say. Well I better go hand in my driving licence, any chance of you coming to pick me up to take me to work as no buses out this way!”