Paul Baxter: How Hull FC's Scott Prince deal was scuppered at the 11th hour by dream NRL offer

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IT is the pivotal position that, try as they might, Hull FC just simply cannot find the right man to fill..

Today, that elusive search for a top-class scrum-half is starting again for the Black and Whites.

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When coach Peter Gentle flew out to Australia to hold face to face talks with Gold Coast captain Scott Prince, he described it as a trip to secure the "last piece in the jigsaw".

Today, that piece remains frustratingly missing.

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Prince's decision to turn his back on Hull at the final hour – after more than a month of positive talks – will hurt for some time.

And it is a decision which may leave Hull fans wondering if their club was used as a pawn to help secure the 32-year-old one last big deal in the NRL.

Just last week, Prince's agent broke ranks to 'categorically' state his player would not remain at Gold Coast, despite the club's attempts to keep their captain.

Saying he wanted to sort his future over the weekend, Prince's agent urged Hull to be patient.

It all looked very positive for the Black and Whites, even until Monday morning when a contract was drawn up to be signed, and was approved by the RFL.

But, it was that evening that Hull owner Adam Pearson took the call from Prince's agent to say the deal was off.

A massive offer in the NRL had surfaced, which Hull simply could not match.

Today, it has been confirmed that Prince will stay in Queensland with Brisbane Broncos.

Looking back over the last few days of negotiations, many will view Prince's agent as having played a clever game for his client.

His comments last week invited a bidding war for his player – almost a "come and get me" plea.

Offers from both Brisbane and St George were forthcoming, and with that came an immediate change of heart from the player.

Pearson, however, is prepared to give Prince and his agent the benefit of the doubt.

And he admitted there was always a danger of being trumped when trying to snare one of the world's best players.

"I think he genuinely wanted to come to Hull and was excited about the idea of playing for us," Pearson said when asked if he questioned the motives of either Prince or his agent.

"We have been speaking to Scott and his agent regularly and we had agreed everything with the Titans for his release, and had agreed a deal with him.

"However, once that NRL deal was put in front of him there was only one decision he was going to make."

Hull now face starting next season with Brett Seymour, who fell out of favour last season, or Richard Horne, at scrum-half.

Pearson had pledged to do his all to bring in a quality number seven, and nobody can doubt the effort made.

Hull firstly pursued Castleford's England star Rangi Chase, only for that deal to be scuppered by red tape over a new visa.

It led to Hull identifying and making enquiries over the availability of Jacob Miller at Wests Tigers.

A move for the highly-rated 20-year-old looked promising following Tim Sheens' exit as coach, but his replacement Mick Potter was quick to put the block on Hull's plans when appointed last week.

Having signed seven new players though to transform Gentle's squad, Pearson is confident they can overcome this setback.

"We believe we have brought in seven quality players and we have a good mix of experience and youth throughout the squad," he said.

"I still think there could be an opportunity over the next four weeks for somebody else to come up for us.

"But we have two great hookers in Danny Houghton and Aaron Heremaia, and we have recruited one outstanding half-back already in Daniel Holdsworth.

"There's no need for us to rush into anything because of this.

"I will sit down with Peter and we will look at the next step.

"We will continue looking to recruit top quality, but we have to ensure we get the players we have ready to play the way we want next season."

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  • Profile image for Yorky1957

    by Yorky1957

    Sunday, November 04 2012, 8:50PM

    “Can't believe we are still posting on this story,we didn't sign him so lets move on ,yesterdays news tomorrows chip paper *** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

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    by Bungle

    Sunday, November 04 2012, 6:27PM

    “As the Sun said on Friday he was on £345,000 and the deal was never going to happen!!

    Of course you know who made the most adnd kept Hull fans hopes alivce as long as he could to sell a few more passes.

    Apparently the cruise was good fun.”

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    by Bobbin_Robin

    Sunday, November 04 2012, 5:47PM

    “Scott Prince soon realised that the buffoon Pearson could hike up his next deal.

    Scott used Pearson like an old Kleenex.

    Good luck Scott, at least you may win something now.”

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    by bridrobin

    Sunday, November 04 2012, 4:28PM

    “Male_sports, IMO, two superb posts.”

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    by Male_sports

    Saturday, November 03 2012, 8:57PM

    “Further to this the answer is not simply sell more passes although this will help that particular club but may not guarantee longevity of the game and create a much wider audience which in turn will lead to the creation of more RL teams throughout the UK. Following expansion ntionally only then can we look towards a "real" world cup competition which includes the wealthiest economies of the USA and China as well as the growing economic nations such as Brasil. By the way even the top premiership football clubs also shop in the Eastern European countires because they are much cheaper then the highly rated players of the western euro countries. Unfortunately because RL isnt on the list of the top 5 sports played it means if we can not find hom grown players at the time of need then the only other supermarkets avialable are Aus and NZ Its an expensive shop and most can only window shop.( no more gibes about FC and Prince please, its becoming tedious) In this time of recession it is probably more difficult to sell more passes for any SL club. However it doesn't seem to have affected the top clubs in the Premier Football League. They all have brand identity only made possible through TV and marketing. Go in to any sports shop in the city centre of Hull and you will see all their replica shirts on sale and selling…..Apparantly we are now watching X Fctor!!!”

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    by Male_sports

    Saturday, November 03 2012, 8:07PM

    “We rely on technology to provide us with our entertainment now more than at any time in human history. Therefore in order to be successful and ensure the sport continues in to the future then SL must embrace technology. The solution is TV , TV and more TV. Where would professional snooker be without TV. Where would professional darts be without TV and where would any professional sport be without TV. The problem with SL is that its covered exclusively by SKY. For those non-subscribers of Sky Sports then they will have to go down to their local. This is ok however, venture from the M62 corridor and see just how many pubs show live SL as appose to say union, cricket and of course football.
    To ensure SL gets the optimum exposure to the masses then a domestic national channel needs to cover SL. Whether its BBC, ITV or Channel 4. But it can't stop there. The format needs to be slick informative and entertaining (sorry Ray French you don't fall into any of these categories) in order to capture a new audience.
    To make a live televised game look like a spectacle rather than some sort of amateur match then the grounds need to be full. If you can't sell tickets then give them away. In televised England Football under 21s the FA allowed kids under 16 in free to ensure Wembley looked full. This may be a tack tic which could be used in SL as the grounds may still generate income from those allowed in free through sales of programs, club memorabilia, food and drink. This in turn may create club / brand loyalty from the youngster with the hope that this will carry on in to "paying" adulthood.
    If not a live game then provide a highlights programme but again the programme needs to be slick, lively, informative and entertaining. The Super League Show format just doesn't do it and venture out of YTV area and you probably won't find it listed.
    What makes thousands and thousands of youngsters want to play football and go to matches, it's because. amongst other reasons, they want to emulate their heroes which they get to see week in week out on TV
    Sorry for the lengthy post guys but Im writing this while the missus channel flicks between Stirctly" and "Take Me Out" oh good grief.”

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    by TheEarlyBath

    Saturday, November 03 2012, 8:14AM

    “Brid, I think the CC gets lost ant the moment and the romance has gone unless you get to the final it's a bit of an anticlimax, as a kid I preferred the CC to the league as it was do or die. I don't know how you revive it I don't think moving it around over the last few years has helped neither gas the big gaps between some rounds. Maybe have a 3 week window for the quarters, semis and then final that might make it a bigger event?
    You are right about agents, there sole purpose is to engineer moves to take a cut of that fee so the more moved they make or bigger contracts they get the better for them
    Gates hull I would have preferred to have seen France England and England knights in this tournament would have been better”

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    by easthullfc11

    Friday, November 02 2012, 4:52PM

    “the exiles game is a load of rubbish. it only gives England one side to choose from. the game should be between two sides made up entirely of British/English players.and 3 games not 2 or 1. also scrap the so-called magic w/e games, they're a waste of time.that could be used to accomodate one of the extra dates for a proper origin type game,then we would have the three dates for the said origin type matches.
    the w.c.c. is something else that needs looking at. why can't both teams play in say Florida?on a date where it doesn't affect our competition,as it currently doesn't have any conflict with the oz season. both leagues are roughly in pre-season etc together , so arrange before or after the season.”

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    by GatesHull1998

    Friday, November 02 2012, 4:39PM

    “Early bath,you have some very interesting ideas there,but I think you miss my point,I think crowds would go up with a more even comp,and I see what you say about losing players to aus and ru,but we already are,what happens now is Tompkins of this world earn very good money it's your average players that are overpaid.the status quo is the top four win everything and the smaller clubs rack up debts! The fundamental rule of any business is bring in more money than you spend.”

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    by easthullfc11

    Friday, November 02 2012, 4:38PM

    “gateshull- i think you'll find the aussies have always picked players from most nrl/arl teams because they've always picked form players,and not picked a player because he plays for so n so club. that's one reason they keep winning. and i think , if you look at the age of most of the Australian pack, then certain posters on here would say they're over the hill lol.
    i see scott moore has signed for cowboys on a 2 yr deal.”

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