Residents' battle for dead-end sign

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Saturday, February 04, 2012
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RESIDENTS in a north Hull street have launched a petition after the council denied them a dead-end sign.

Drivers mistakenly believe they can access Beverley High Road via Dunkeld Drive.

Queues are forming in the cul-de-sac, causing disruption for residents.

A request was made to Hull City Council for a dead-end sign, which residents believe would solve the problem.

However, a senior Guildhall official responded in an e-mail, seen by the Mail, by stating "a sign should not be erected as this may create a demand for similar signs throughout the estate, which may lead to a proliferation of signs".

Barbara Maddison, who has lived in the street for 12 years, said: "It is getting worse. Some days, we get big container lorries coming along the road.

"They are too big to turn around, so they are having to reverse.

"Big queues often form."

Mrs Maddison said she is not impressed with the council's reasoning for refusing a sign.

"It sounds a ridiculous reason to me," she said.

Ward councillor Dave McCobb, who has been asked to take up the case by residents, said he has seen the problem for himself.

He said: "Driving down Downfield Avenue, it looks as though you can carry on along Dunkeld Drive to get on to Beverley High Road. On realising they can't do this, drivers are having to turn around. Queues form and it is disturbing a lot of people.

"There are a lot of bungalows in this cul de sac and many of them are inhabited by the elderly."

Both Mr McCobb and fellow ward councillor Karen Mathieson have contacted Hull City Council to find a solution, without success.

Mr McCobb said: "This has been a problem for some time.

"I can remember my driving instructor taking me down here to prove a point.

"Residents believe the problem can be easily fixed simply by installing a 'dead end' sign, which would alert drivers.

"But council officers, in an e-mail, have told me they can't provide a sign because they think it would spark a flurry of requests from other streets.

"What kind of response is that? It sounds like red tape to me."

Ms Mathieson said she was also unhappy with the council's response.

She said: "The argument that Dunkeld Drive can't have a dead-end sign because demand for these signs in other streets will shoot up is nonsense.

"Simple street signs like this are essential in many places.

"The whole thing is bureaucratic bean-counting gone mad."

Ms Mathieson said: "There is a clear demand for a dead-end sign in this road.

"It is so infamous that driving instructors take people to the road to point out the mistake most drivers make.

"I will, of course, continue to work with local residents to try to get the sign installed."

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  • Profile image for AstonomiaSK

    by AstonomiaSK

    Sunday, February 05 2012, 7:26PM

    “Utter rubbish from the council - if its a dead end then they can have a sign -see the traffic regulations. At the other end of the scale in the East Riding they are signage potty. Worse still many of the East Ridings signs are illegal. Long lane has an illegal 40 zone - no such thing so questionable if you can be prosecuted for speeding. Woodmansey has illagal 30mps signage - the figures must be in the correct place in the roundel. There are so called 'high visability backing boards' evedywhere - traffic regs state to be used in exceptional circumstances. In Driffiled there are new mini signs on huge pole for cyclists warning of concealed entrances the poles are far bigger than the tiny little triangles on top. Put signs up when people need for them (as in this case) and get rid of the clutter elsewhere.”

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    by KiminHull

    Saturday, February 04 2012, 12:58PM

    “Councillors McCobb and Mathison will be fully aware they could fund this themselves through the Area safety or initiatives budget. Why have they let this drag on when they could have sorted it out from the start. Looks to me they are after cheap publicity to the detriment of local residents.”

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    by Richie456

    Saturday, February 04 2012, 12:04PM

    “"DER" the whole area is a "dead end" or a cul de sac. One road in and the same road out. And if I remember correctly there is a "dead end" sign as you enter Downfield Ave from Beverley Road. What more do these people want?
    Typical of a Councillor to jump onto a band wagon that's not going any where. The Councillor should already know that the Council has not got any money since this government did what they do best.
    Yes must be a verrry slowww newwwws daaaay

    Enjoy the changing of the traffic lights.”

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    by desmania

    Saturday, February 04 2012, 11:43AM

    “I love the council response 'a sign ... may lead to a proliferation of signs' ... surely the point is to put up signs where there is a genuine need, and if cars are queueing in this cul-de-sac to turn around then surely there's a need! I live in the city centre and there are tons of pointless signs and banners advertising non-entities such as the 'Trinity Quarter' whatever that is”

  • Profile image for FabianFarquhr

    by FabianFarquhr

    Saturday, February 04 2012, 9:17AM

    “Very ssssssssslow news day.”

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