War of words as Lib Dems storm out of Hull City Council meeting at the Guildhall

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Friday, October 19, 2012
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OPPOSITION councillors stormed out of Hull City Council yesterday, accusing the ruling Labour group of bully-boy tactics.

Twelve Lib Dem councillors walked out of the Guildhall, throwing the full council meeting into disarray, after being repeatedly silenced by the majority party.

  1. CLASHES: There were angry exchanges at the full council meeting in the Guildhall before Councillor Mike Ross led a walk-out of Lib Dem members. Picture: Kate Woolhouse.

    CLASHES: There were angry exchanges at the full council meeting in the Guildhall before Councillor Mike Ross led a walk-out of Lib Dem members. Picture: Kate Woolhouse.

Deputy leader Councillor Mike Ross led the exodus, labelling the actions of Labour councillors a disgrace to politics and a return to the dark days when independent inspectors criticised the Labour group for a bullying culture.

The row was sparked after the Lib Dems had vowed to challenge the Labour administration over controversial policies, including fortnightly bin collections and the recent roadworks that have caused traffic jams.

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The opposition had been attempting to pass a range of motions, including a weekly collection of recycling bins and their condemnation of the handling of the roadworks.

However, when they tried to comment, Labour councillors insisted they had already been debated at the council's scrutiny committee, halting debate.

"Anything we did to move items was constantly shot down," said Cllr Ross, after leading the walk-out.

"If they don't like your opinion, they won't allow you to speak. If they don't like what you've got to say, they dismiss it out of hand and allow no debate.

"It is absolutely shocking and it has demonstrated complete arrogance on behalf of the Labour group."

Cllr Ross said he feared the day's developments signalled a return to less glorious days in the city's political history, with Labour using its 19-strong majority to stifle debate on its policies.

Labour were also accused of employing bully-boy tactics when they held the majority before the Lib Dem group took office in 2006.

"If this is a sign of things to come, it is extremely worrying," Cllr Ross said.

"People remember the bad old days when Labour had nearly all the councillors. They didn't listen and acted like the council was their personal fiefdom – not a place where councillors debate issues of concern to the public.

"Their bullying left Hull as officially the worst council in the country."

He insisted his party, which holds 17 seats on the council, with the Conservatives holding two and the Independents one, would challenge the Labour group's policies, despite yesterday's tactics.

"People in Hull deserve better," he said.

"We're there to stand up for people in Hull and we'll fight Labour's bully-boy tactics every step of the way."

Lib Dem councillors were silenced when key items were raised for debate, including the council's redundancy programme, the future of the city's community crime-fighting fund and the move to fortnightly bin collections.

Cllr Ross has vowed to take the matters back to the council at the first available opportunity.

"The public have put their trust in all of us to serve them and the city correctly but Labour have today repeatedly stopped us providing the kind of service the public deserve," he said.

"Full council is one of the few opportunities to come together and talk about the issues that affect people in the city and for Labour to undermine that opportunity shows a complete lack of respect to not only other politicians, but to the public themselves.

"We will bring all the items that should have been debated back to the council and have another attempt to try to hold a professional and constructive meeting. That is what the public deserve."

Lib Dem councillor Dave McCobb claimed the actions of the Labour councillors had disgraced their party.

"We will not tolerate this type of behaviour when we are trying to debate key issues that affect people across the whole city," he said.

"To simply not allow people to express their opinion is a shameful act."

In a swipe back, Labour condemned the actions of the Lib Dem councillors, accusing them of behaving like "petulant children".

They accused the 12 councillors of shouting at the Lord Mayor, interrupting speakers and refusing to abide by the constitution of the council.

Council leader Steve Brady denied any councillor from the Labour group had been involved in bullying tactics.

"I will not tolerate bullying in any way, shape or form," he said.

"At this important time of getting investment into the city, it is absolutely shameful they are acting in this manner.

"What they are trying to do is discredit the whole local government system by bringing motions to the council that have already been put to scrutiny. They need to grow up and engage in productive meetings."

Labour group secretary Tom McVie said the amount of business the Lib Dem group had placed on the agenda meant it was essential to limit speakers to allow new subjects to be discussed.

"It was obvious from the very beginning they were up to something and throughout the meeting, they behaved atrociously," he said.

"The Labour group was happy to allow three Lib Dem speakers to our one on each motion but that was not good enough for them.

"They need to consider how their actions today reflect on them and how it enables them to represent anyone."

The Lib Dem group has lost 14 members since 2000 and Labour feel their actions are a backlash from this loss.

Cllr Brady said: "When they were in office, they curtailed the debates. Whenever we wanted to have a debate, they called an end to it. They did exactly the same thing as we did today."

The debate on bin collections across the city finally led to Lib Dem councillors to leave the already-heated meeting.

Cllr Brady said: "The breaking point seemed to be a motion alleging a failure to consult over bin collections, which was moved by Cllr Williams and seconded by Cllr Ross.

"The irony of this is that there was a scrutiny meeting on September 28 and at the scrutiny call-in three of them, including Cllr Ross, had fully debated the matter and even congratulated officers over the 'excellent consultation that had taken place'.

"Today, however, they seemed to have forgotten this. It is quite remarkable really and a very sad day for democracy."

Last night, a resolution seemed to be in sight after both Labour and Lib Dem group secretaries welcomed meetings to broker a deal between their parties.

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  • Profile image for IllaGhee1

    by IllaGhee1

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 10:40AM

    “And people get paid thousands a pounds a year to act like this there is cuts all over government cant we cut politicians people would rather have no one representing them then pay these no marks to act like babies.”

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    by Strangley

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 9:24AM

    “@PatrickNewman

    You hit the nail on the head there, the SS Lib Dem is heading for the mother of all iceburgs.

    You might have noted in other stories, that the rats are starting to scuttle off down the gang plank already”

  • Profile image for Guildhalldog

    by Guildhalldog

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 9:03AM

    “What everyone has been waiting for. McCobb has a number of rants.

    http://tinyurl.com/8dt25tv

  • Profile image for Weekslider

    by Weekslider

    Saturday, October 20 2012, 4:26AM

    “@ fredflinty

    ."I saw the meeting on the web-cam, McCobb was screaming at the lord Mayor like a man with Rabies, well worth a watch he completely lost it."...Great I think we'd all like to see that...can you please supply us the URL?
    .”

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    by Demonica666

    Friday, October 19 2012, 11:40PM

    “'War of words'? Two words: GROW UP! What a total embarrassment. This is what happens when you get individuals with the intelligence of lino in the Guildhall.”

  • Profile image for smartguy1

    by smartguy1

    Friday, October 19 2012, 10:44PM

    “Yes the Lib Dems will always be remembered for having reversing lights on their policies, a bit like the Italian tanks in WW2. David Cameron will be remembered for the same reason as Maggie Thatcher and John Major, the latter suffering a huge defeat by Blair and he resigned in bewilderment. What a bunch of fools. Thousands will blame Cameron for the loss of their jobs for many years to come. The worst possibly our troops who have fought bravely putting their lives at risk to find a threat of redundancy. The only people who seem to thrive when we have recession are the ones who have the most money. I am just glad to be still working in the current climate.”

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    by PatrickNewman

    Friday, October 19 2012, 10:02PM

    “Lib Dems, you are entitled to your 15 minutes of drama. Enjoy it while you may because your days are decidedly numbered both in Parliament and in town halls. You will not be able to form a Parliamentary football team (5 a side rules) after 2015. The Coalition agreement is by far the longest suicide note in modern politics for your party. It is the price you will pay for being Cameron's and Osborne's willing little poodle.”

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    by 23041642

    Friday, October 19 2012, 9:50PM

    “I've said this before... the politicians in this city have done more damage to Hull in the last sixty odd years than the Luftwaffe ever did. The whole lot are a basket case full of massive egos and petty predjudice intent on building their own empires. I'm not convinced any are in it for the right reason. The rest of the country see this behaviour and think Hull is full of loonies. Lets hope Seimens don't take this spat too seriously.”

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    by smartguy1

    Friday, October 19 2012, 9:49PM

    “Taking about the recent roadworks problems can anyone tell me what's happened with Castle Street these last 3 weeks. It's ridiculous. There are no roadworks yet traffic is still queuing at 6.30 at night. It's never been like this consistently and its the same in the morning. I can only put it down to our stupid highways have been twiddling with the lights at Toys R Us again and got it wrong......AGAIN. How hard can it be to put it right.”

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    by cantstandu

    Friday, October 19 2012, 8:32PM

    “Wow Lib Dems crying like a school kid, When they was in power they ran the Council like the SS nobody could say or do anything without 4 Lib Dem councillors say so and now they run away to sulk and cry fou.
    Well McGobb it is your Government forcing these changes on local Councils like Hull now go and tell Clegg to stop supporting the Tories you bunch of school kids.

    For Goodness sake everytime you start shouting bully when you dont get your way when you dont stand up for yourself. We all know that your party is by far the worst just look why 14 Councillors have left your SS party.”

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