“Hmm. The care home launders your clothing (and bedding) doesn't it? Does this not count as providing fresh clothing?

Do the police provide fresh clothes to combat hygiene problems? It can't be very nice for them to have to deal with someone in soiled clothes.

If someone now tells me it's a human rights issue I may join you in the head-banging though.”

“Aren't the clothes they provide paper onesies? I ca't imagine take you shopping in Harrods or even M&S.

Anyway flossy, how do you know? Did you get arrested for being drunk and disorderly last night?”

“Not sure about the human rights thing but it wouldn`t surprise me. I would have thought that the disposable paper suits would have been ideal both for the police and the prisoner but no. They have jogging bottoms, tee shirts and sweat tops.

jenoh,
yes the care home does do your laundry. And they charge you the earth for it.

It makes my blood boil to think that we treat our criminals, drug addicts and alcoholics better than our sick.

g69,

Now that`s between me and the copper that told me lol.”

“flossy

Yes but were you being arrested at the time?”

“My son was given an on the spot fine for being naked in the fountain Queens Gardens, it was 4.00am and cold( not his proudest moment) It cost him £80.00 he was immature and deserved a caution but I've always thought the fine was a bit harsh, they didn't offer him my clothes not even a foil blanket!”

“Typo! Should have been any not my!”

“If they had offered him your clothes he would have been less likely to reoffend ... just think all this could have been avoided had you not brought him up in a hippy naturist commune ...

Is he the one in india without access to tv and computers? is he in prison :)???”

“bt13,
Great response! Mind you I think any clothes would have sufficed, it was a female officer!
He is remarkably in a good job in the south of England, our son in India is only 18 and due home next month, he is currently poorly and on a diet of plain rice and water! Not bad though as he has been there over 5 months and it is only the second stomach upset! He reckons as lonhpg as you eat vegetarian only you won't get anything too nasty. He has however requested roast beef as his first home meal!”

“I think if I was 18 the idea of going to india, sounds really exciting ... add 20 years and I now think of it as dangerous .. whats he doing out there?

Maybe I should go seems like a boot camp diet ...

PS ... i was only joking about your wardrobe I am sure your eldest son would love to wear them and would look absolute fabulous in them :)”

“bt13,
He is working with the untouchables, the Jesuits have set up a school for these children who would never normally receive an education, if you type Loyola School Manvi in to the web it will give you an idea as to how he is living and the work he is doing.
He is very happy and loves his work and life out there, he has fallen in love with India and is even looking at attending an Indian university!
I never had such opportunities and am happy for him to be there despite his age, after all he could get mugged,stabbed or ill in Hull so let him have an adventure!”

“If you had alzheimers or dementia you wouldn't be out getting drunk anyway.”

“usual Christian comment from 'the church' or one of its comedy representatives anyway.”

“Or perhaps one that can take a joke? #no-offence-intended”

“I can only recognise jokes if they are funny.

Hope this helps rev.”

“Brillianly funny ghostwriter. Bravo and well done. I love your hilarious quips and responses.”

“well at least they are hilarious. Read and learn rev.”

“Yes you are a natural. Thank you.”

“I bet you have a massive circle of friends?”

“Are you a betting man then rev? Are you allowed to bet in your job?”

“I would love to be able to say that I have a gamble on the horses but I'd better not. The pastor would pastor-ise me.”

“Does anybody get arrested for being drunk?”

“I had a little wine the other evening with Father O'Flaherty. I would hate to think that I could be arrested for being a little 'worse for wear'. Not that we were prancing around in his fountain. Too cold for behaviour like that in the current temperatures.”

“yes mutton8, they do. A few weeks ago a man was on trial in the magistrates court for getting on a train drunk.

Hope that helps”

“A friend of mine is (weirdly) called Duncan D'Sorderly.”

“gw69 - what bad luck.”

“gw69 - wow,what bad luck.”

“Don't think getting drunk and boarding a train has anything to do with luck.”

“Do train staff carry breathalysers these days? Surely you must have to be drunk AND something illegal to be arrested?”

“I think the BT police were involved as be called 6 of them as witnesses. Don't know the details as the case was postponed as he was as deaf as a post and kept shouting "You what?" at the magistrates.

The magistrates said he wouldn't get a fair trial - he was defending himself - so sent it back to the CPS. Though when they told him he wasn't going to be tried that day he could hear that well enough.

'4. Intoxication and possession of intoxicating liquor
(1) No person shall enter or remain on the railway where such person is unfit
to enter or remain on the railway as a result of being in a state of
intoxication"

http://tinyurl.com/bubueoe”

“Quite so. Being unfit to be on a train as a result of intoxication is not the same as simply being drunk is it?

When I worked in pubs I often wondered how on earth you were supposed to comply with the ruling that you must not serve someone who is drunk. I've sold the geezer three pints, he's over the limit for driving so he is drunk, but unless he starts stripping off, dancing on tables and singing "Yes Sir, I Can Boogie" how am I supposed to decide that he is drunk?”

“jenoh

so what are you saying? That I used the word 'drunk' when I should have said 'intoxicated'? Being drunk/intoxicated is a fact. Being 'unfit' is a judgement call which no doubt was going to be decided during the trial. That is why he pleaded 'not guilty' and called 6 BT police as witnesses.

To me they are interchangeable and the man was in magistrates' court for getting on a train drunk. Whoever decided (or are you happier if I use the word 'believed' rather than 'decided'?) he was drunk when he got on the train obviously had to call the BT police (otherwise he wouldn't have ended up in court) and no doubt they have breathalysers.

What he actually did to call attention to himself (he was 72) didn't come up because, as I posted, he was too deaf and the trial couldn't go ahead.”

“You shouldn't apparently drive a train whilst being intoxicated. You might go off the rails.”

“Or post on here.”

“ghostwriter69 - No. No no no. I wasn't criticising your choice of words at all. My point (which you have answered in this instance) was that a person who is drunk/intoxicated/under the influence of alcohol etc is not someone who gets arrested. A person who is all of the above AND does something illegal because of being in that state IS someone who gets arrested.

It is possible to be drunk and behave in a manner that is not illegal, hence my question regarding the serving of alcohol to someone who you know to be drunk.”

“If you serve alcohol to a drunk and he causes injury to himself, he could hold you responsible and sue you. (Especially in the States). If you give someone a pain killer and they have a bad reaction, you are now responsible - hence the removal of all pain killers from first aid kits.

Had the old chap in question done something illegal after getting on the train (like tearing up the seats, spray painting the ceiling or punching the guard) , then he would have been charged with that - and not simply getting on the train intoxicated. It isn't illegal to shout or argue with a train guard - but obviously it can be if you are intoxicated and on the railways at the time.”

“I am more concerned about drunks on planes than trains. I am always amazed to see people buying drink after drink at the airport often as early as 6.00am and then boarding a flight and probably consuming more. The cabin crew must have an awful job dealing with them, not a job I would want!”