“Dont forget some over weight people are like that due to some medical conditions ,how ever no one stuffed a fag into a persons face and forced them to smoke but they still get medical treatment with no questions,same as people who drink to much no one forces a drink down their throats but again get medical treatment.
Having said that i find it offencive when you see a fat person stuffing a meat pie in their faces then complaining about not getting help.
Or some one in a wheel chair coughing and spluttering then lighting a fag up that really bugs me.”

“In what way are fat people a drain on resources?”

“A diet of gravel and bark will no doubt sort them out.”

“I have no objection to anyone, overweight, smoker or drinker getting medical help as long as they work and pay income tax and national insurance contributions.”

“Flossy really cannot be argued with, if people work and pay tax, they are entitled to the N.H.S.
I do believe though that it is serious neglect not to feed your children properly, a consenting adult knows that if they are living on a diet of pizza, burger , chips and coke it is not healthy but to give a child a diet like that is abuse. What we are seeing now is the tip of the iceberg, the N.H.S will be overrun with obesity related illness in the next ten years.
All processed foods, fizzy drinks etc should have an added tax to contribute to the strain of the health services. These foods should be a rare treat for convenience not part of anyone's staple diet.”

“Totally agree Missfoodlove.
The Government (which ever has power at the time) however only seem to want a health service for fit, well people.”

“Maybe the current scandal about processed meat products and pictures of some of the factories producing them might make some people think twice about buying them in futiure. That plus the fact they have all been removed from supermarket shelves.”

“So I'll take that as you all agreeing then, thanks.”

“I've taken all the above points on board and am now going to stop eating so much offal. Instead I shall just drtink more, oops hic.”

“GuyCandy,

I`m certainly not agreeing with you.

It depends on what you class as fat. Do you mean the over weight, clinically obese or morbidly obese?
I know of two women that we would call `curvy` but were classed as clinically obese when doctors used the BMI way of calculating it.

The morbidly obese, in my opinion have serious psychological problems. Why else would anyone let themselves get so big that they cannot get out of bed?
Mental illness is as serious as physical illness.”

“GuyCandy

A while ago you posted that you'd put on weight since stopping smoking, so is this a trick question?”

“I mean anyone with a BMI of 30+.

Not only is it unhealthy, it's also unsightly.

I don't want to see porkers shuffling around our streets or (even worse) see them wobbling along on their mobesity scooters.”

“That is pretty good. Never heard the phrase mobesity scooters before. Might prompt a poem....”

“A friend of mine had a BMI of about 30 (I assume) yet she insisted that she didn't over eat.

I hardly recognised her after not seeing her for a few months as she had lost a massive amount of weight. Turned out she had an underactive thyroid and once she was diagnosed and put on medication, the weight just dropped off her.

I am not saying that applies to everyone who is over weight by any means, but sometimes it is a medical issue.”

“Ah the ghostwriter, one of my very favourite fosters on the porum. knows everything about everything, and what he doesn't know he uses the googler. Smashing.”

“Talking of Fosters'... Sorry to parp in your hallway, but "Mobesity Scooter" is a known phrase. No need for poetry.”

“Guycandy,

I see we`re getting down to the truth of the matter now.
You`re not really interested in the cost of treating fat people, you just want them removed from the streets because you find them offensive.

Very compassionate.”

“Interestingly since I retired and spent less time in an office and more time cyling, gardening and fishing my waistline has gone down from 40" to 36" but I have actually put on weight - according to my doctor its because muscle weighs more than fat - but according to my BMI calculation I am bordering on overweight”

“jenoh, your post saying 'no need for poetry' is obviously a green light for me to ompose a verse.

When would you like it? It'll be a long 'un.”

“Sensational - you have a worrying tendency to think that "no" means "yes"

Is this a common problem with DJs?”

“Hahaha!! Ohhhh.... Rape. Classic.

Anyway. McDonalds etc should be forced to scream 'CRETIN!' at any parent who feeds their child as a 'treat', or have their licence to trade removed.”

“flossy,
Where did I ever claim to be compassionate?

Compassion goes out of the window when you see these huge behemoths straining to walk down the street with their fat children in tow, thereby ensuring that the next generation will follow in their flabby footsteps.

They obviously have no respect for themselves, so how can they expect any respect from anyone else. Personally, I like to shout abuse at some of them. Nothing strikes home better than some well timed abuse, especially when you see one of these lumps coming out of Greggs, tucking into a big bag of sausage rolls, when you call them a fat b******d, seeing them struggle to get a reply out whilst emitting a spray of crumbs is hilarious :)”

“GuyCandy,
Your attitude towards people is dreadful, being obese is not enjoyable and I doubt there are many overweight people who enjoy being so big. It may be easier for a fat person to lose weight than a nasty vitriolic person to become pleasant.”

“Missfoodlove - Please don't try to destroy my image of the happy fat person. I always thought they were jolly!

*sadface*”

“Au contraire Missfoodlove, it is all the bleeding hearts and do gooders who have put us in this situation to begin with.

A good dose of being pilloried in public is exactly what these lard butts deserve. Personally I would have a dozen of them, every Saturday, skipping boxer style in only their underwear in Victoria Square just to shame them and entertain the rest of us. Marvellous :)”

“GC - Nah. It isn't.

You can't justify being cruel by saying that people being nice is creating problems.

Just admit it, you enjoy it and it makes you feel better to abuse other people. No need to be ashamed. (Well, there is.... but if you want to maintain your image then you should show that you're not bothered)”

“AG,
I'm not ashamed at all, the only people who should be ashamed are the fatties themselves.

Seems I even have the backing of the medical profession, listening to todays news.”

“GuyCandy - you told us (albeit under another name I believe) that you had stopped smoking and put on weight.

Are you now saying that you are back at your ideal weight or is this whole thread a wind up?”

“Just seen C4 news with some Doctors saying kids should be given gastric bands.
Fat people are just as stupid as smokers and just as much of a drain on the NHS.
How to avoid being a mountain of blubber? Don't eat like a pig and get a bit of exercise is the very easy way.
Me and the Mrs have never eaten burgers and hardly ever eat chips and have never smoked,even when it was "fashionable". Don't make excuses for gluttonous fools.”

“Nine teaspoons of sugar in a tin of Pepsi or Coke. Think I 'm gonna drink Guinness in future. That'll be good for ya.”

“Really? Never had Dickie down as one of those types. Or are you just so anti-Briers that you'll pin anything on him?”

“Or "Richard" Briers as he was to people who'd never met him.

It seems the only unpleasant aspect of the man was that he gave himself emphysema through smoking (by his own admission).

And we're back on topic...”

“I just want to 'chip' in here and some thought to this : processed food is manufacturing = jobs + vat & profit and taxes - if we stop manufacturing rubbish which is a multi billion pound industry will the loss in revenue hit our economy on the opposite end of the scale?

I dont believe that all you forum people eat organically every night ... I bet your having turkey twizzlers for your tea with chips n high salt sugary baked beans with mini sausages in.”

“bt13'
I can honestly say that with the exception of a bottle of ketchup and H.P, we do not eat any processed food. One of the reasons is because as a young married couple with a mortgage and child, we really couldn't afford to eat anything but meals cooked from scratch, I used to plan out the weeks meals then shop accordingly, our cupboards and fridge contained what we needed for the week and no more.As babies and toddlers the children ate all the same food as us.This is 29 years ago and processed food was not as prolific or as cheap as it is now.
We are now in a much different financial position but processed food tastes of salt and chemicals to us, we do love good fish and chips though, and there has been some weight gain due to the amount of wine we drink ! This is being addressed !”

“jz

Are you back or commenting from Haiti? Or was it Cuba?”

“"They are a huge drain on scant resources..."

Have you any evidence of just how scant the resources are?”

“I am back from cuba - bit jet lagged and wish I was still in the sunshine :)”

“mfl - see you at AA then :)”

“Fat people have no more right to walk gods' earth than a weasel”

“And as weasel's have every right to walk on God's earth ...”

“Good work ghost!”

“Seen a few pachyderms wandering around the town centre today , a bit of sun and the layers come off, which leads me to believe that burka's should be obligatory for the Weebles.”

“Maybe John1947 thinks that weasels should have wings and fly? But even if they did they would have to walk now and again. Even ducks walk and they can swim and fly. What a life!”

“I saw a weasel singing a progressive chart tune, i thought, "Ooh, pop goes the weasel...."”

“@Flossy: "Can't believe the thread got this long without responding to you...

Fat people develop premature diabetes, grind their knees and hips to Burger King fodder in their forties, have premature high blood pressure... and you, as a concerned citizen, have no idea?

I really like your posts, in general, in fact I'm I'm a bit disappointed that you've not responded to my posts, but that's no big deal. I think highly of you as someone who posts what she really thinks.

But, honestly, obesity has been trumpeted for some time as a major drain on medical resources. Is it possible that fat Brits are somehow immune to the ails that befall obese Yanks? Be prepared to publish facts... actually, from what I've seen, Britain is catching up with America in the obesity department, and in part for the same reasons--working more hours, grabbing a BK instead of a sauteed fish fillet at home. I reflect on my Anglo/Irish ancestors waddling around, wheezing and lying in nursing home beds for years. Can't just be something in the soil here...”

“MrSeptic - one difference between the UK and the US is that we have not yet medicalised the many states of being human so I think we are sometimes blind to all the side effects of life.

Plus, we don't have Wilford Brimley bellowing at us about "diabeetus"”