“Alot of them would have even shorter lifespans if it wasn`t for the work charitable organisations do.
My last dog lived for 17 years, quite a decent lifespan I would say.”

“Using the same logic, why try and help people with terminal illnesses?”

“Since humans should know better and there is government support for most things, does it make sense to give to human charities?”

“I consider myself neutral on this, as I do not give to any charity.

But purely from a logical pov, most animals do not live very long compared to humans and are not self aware anyway (with the odd exception), so why bother?”

“It's quality of life that matters, not longevity. I would give my money to animal charities any day over human ones. Using your logic, a child with a life limiting illness shouldn't qualify for help then?”

“I don't tend to donate to any charities on a regular basis, having said that, I've done charity discos a few time over the years. But I'll pop a few pence in a pdsa or rspca 'dog' (there's one in ASDA Hessle Road that gets my shrapnel.) I think that if a quality of life is improved, human or animal, no matter for what length of time, it is a positive so people should donate if they wish/can.”

“Whether an animal is hungry today or not, it will not remember tomorrow. We may as well have charities against cruelty to carboard boxes.”

“"Whether an animal is hungry today or not, it will not remember tomorrow."

It will if it is living somewhere where it isn't being fed. Because it will be hungry permanently - until it dies of starvation of course.

Gandhi said "

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

Replace 'nation' with 'poster' and that also applies.”

“If it was a case of scraping my plate into the bin or a belly of a hungry animal I would choose the animal.”

“Anon_Geoff,

Actually there is very little support from the government for most charities. Which is why hospices are always fundraising and the shopping centres are full of stands for " Help for Heroes".
We rely far too heavily on charities to keep things at an acceptable level in this country.”

“Thankfully we are a nation of do-nations (see what I did there?) It makes me proud to see that, where a rich conglomerate might not donate so happily, a paper-boy might donate his wages for the week, as is often the case on Children In Need etc.”

“little g ... I think your a bit of a tool. "I consider myself neutral on this, as I do not give to any charity".....

I believe in Karma... just pray that one day you don't need helping...”

“Does this mean that crocodiles (100 years+) and tortoises (200 years +) get extra help ?

Why does it matter if the animal remembers or not ? Working on that logic perhaps you're suggesting alzheimer sufferers shouldn't be cared for since their awareness is limited ?”

“I hope you're not suffering from this dreaded disease John. Would hate you to forget us all.”

“dj,

That is NOT in the least funny.”

“bt13jz, I've never given to a charity, nor have I taken from a charity, my karma is doing just fine thank you.

Though I did once give the contents of my tuna sandwiche to a stray cat outside Grantham train station, if that counts.”

“Little_Ole_G,

Lets hope your good health lasts and you die in bed with your boots on then. Many people rely on hospice for end of life care. If no one gave to these charities, they wouldn`t exist. Fingers crossed you never need one.”

“Yes of course we should support animal welfare , I'm a animal lover , Flossy ! your dog had a good innings 17 years , what does that equate to in animal years ? if the government can give millions away in foreign aid , why should we not give a few quid to animal welfare .”

“flossy

well obviously it isn't me.

as for the other suggestions, fair comment.”

“John1947, in short, yes, to the long lived reptiles getting more care than cats, dogs etc.

Alzheimer sufferers are still more aware than cats and dogs.”

“Yes, if reduction of suffering-in-the-world is the objective.

Given that most people don't mind animals being slaughtered on an industrial scale for food, I would guess that most people think that animal charities are absurd. But then, so are most people.”

“Pippa,

I`m sick of trying to second guess silly posters who think they can confuse the forum with a new name. What does it matter? If I disagree with your comments I`ll tell you just as I will if I agree.”

“Little_Ole_ G and DJ,

Neither of you can possibly have any knowledge of Alzheimers, otherwise you wouldn`t make such stupid comments.”

“Flossyflathat, my apologies if my comment offended, my point was that comparing Alzheimers to animals is wrong: which I do not think is a stupid position.”

“Little_Ole_G posted on Wednesday, December 12 2012, 12:58PM

"Alzheimer sufferers are still more aware than cats and dogs."


Little_Ole_G then posted on Wednesday, December 12 2012, 1:31PM


"my point was that comparing Alzheimers to animals is wrong"

You are the one doing the comparing. LOL”

“Flossy

"Neither of you can possibly have any knowledge of Alzheimers"

Au contraire ma Cherie

A very close relative has been suffering for the past 4-5 years(altho' only in their late 50s)
As a family we console each other on the downs :( and approach the ups with humour :)

So please don't tell me I can't possibly have any knowledge”

“Little_Ole_G,

John 1947 first brought up the subject of Alzheimers with a valid point. All you`ve done is make a mockery of the disease and then try to wriggle out of it.

And in answer to the point you made, alzeimers sufferers, in the latter stages, have no awareness whatsoever.
People should put their brains into gear before making comments about things they know nothing about.”

“pippa27

by flossyflathatWednesday, December 12 2012, 1:16PM

"Little_Ole_ G and DJ,

Neither of you can possibly have any knowledge of Alzheimers, otherwise you wouldn`t make such stupid comments."



YOU replied

by pippa27Wednesday, December 12 2012, 1:53PM

"Flossy

"Neither of you can possibly have any knowledge of Alzheimers"

Au contraire ma Cherie

A very close relative has been suffering for the past 4-5 years(altho' only in their late 50s)
As a family we console each other on the downs :( and approach the ups with humour :)

So please don't tell me I can't possibly have any knowledge"



So you are either Little_Old_G or the DJ because that is who flossy was talking to.


Forgot who you were logged in as before you pressed the 'submit' button? LOL”

“I don't think I overstepped the mark at all Floss. If I had some form of dementia I'd expect people to be able to make a quip about it (actually i can't always remember where i parked the car and have had a couple of parking tickets cos I've been searching down the wrong street.) I'd say something to the parking warden like "Oops. My flippin' memory, sure I've got dementia". This is the British way. Can you tell me what ailments and conditions you don't mind me making a little funny over? If i know I'll know. Now, if i said "All dementia sufferers are idiots" I can see how this might be interpreted. Don't you worry, i don't mock the afflicted. It's not exactly big is it?”

“ghostwriter69

No need for the full copy and paste

And NO I knew exactly who I was logged in as XD”

“Make of it what you will LOL”

“Can anyone tell me who I'm logged in as? Oops, maybe I'm Pippa? And Lickle Old Gee? How does anyone remember all the passwords. Yes, how does the former xwzzzzzzzzz remember all the passwords of all of her accounts. I reckon she's bt too.”

“pippa27

"And NO I knew exactly who I was logged in as XD"

Yes I bet. PMSL”

“Mimi

If you're me
Am I you ?”

“Why do people bother with different user names if they can`t remember who they`re logged in as?

Pippa/Granny.
You can insult my job description all you like, it really doesn`t bother me. At least I work for a living.”

“Flossy

I would never ever dream of insulting your job description

Please direct me to the post

And guess what...I used to work for a living too”

“ghostwriter

Do you remember when you got your **antyflo** mixed up with your **a_2_z* ?

Because I pointed out your error (a mistake anyone with multiple identities could make, let's be fair) you've never really taken to me, have you ?”

“Pippa/ granny,

You know very well I can`t "show" you the post because you`ve had it deleted but for those of you that don`t realise what a nasty snob Pippa really is it went the lines of,

" I certainly won`t be taking advice from a checkout girl".

Yes I work on the tills and I`m certainly not ashamed of it.”

“I wasn't making a mock of Alzheimers sufferers - I was simply using it as an example of reduced awareness - apologies if I've offened anyone. There is a difference between intelligence and awareness.

On a lighter note ( and for the physicists among you) I suffer from Heisenberg's syndrome - I don't know who I am and where I am at the same time ;)”

“flossy

Funny that pippa/cara_mia/Little_Ole_G/MJWhyatt never mentions her job.

pippa27

A bit late to deflect from your mistake now by trying to involve me. You have been really busy these last few haven't you? And all that plotting to have a go at me. I am really happy that I am so important in your life - I bet it's all you live for nowadays.

And as for "you've never really taken to me, have you ?" you have more front than Blackpool.”

“by MimiTheDJWednesday, December 12 2012, 2:40PM

"Can anyone tell me who I'm logged in as"

No - not until you press the 'submit' button. Then it's too late. You did that yourself recently didn't you when you were insisting that you weren't mimitheDJ/GCtheDJ.

Bet it was quite a shock when the post appeared, especially after all those poems that mimi wrote to GC begging him to come back.

LOL”

“Pippa I was always told to respect my elders but I make exceptions and your one of them. Your just sad and righteous. If you are like his in real life you'll end up alone... in bad company.”

“John 1947,

I know that you weren`t mocking alzheimers sufferers. You made a valid point which I understood. Just a pity the forum trolls don`t have the same respect.”

“pippa27 Wednesday, December 12 2012, 2:32PM
"ghostwriter69

No need for the full copy and paste"

Oh there was, I can assure you there was.”

“gw blah blah mimi blah blah GC; and GC loved every one of those special poems and copied and pasted every word into the virtual scrap-book.”

“This is better than "Call My Bluff" (If you're under 60 you perhaps won't remember)

Will the real Little_Old_G stand up

PS Flossy for godsake take a chill pill

And ghostwriter69 you've posted under umpteen names but only ever denied being Little_Old_G”

“Floss, I'm sorry if you've lost or are losing someone to this dreaded disease. I couldn't possibly have known. People make quips about all sorts of taboo and naughty subjects. They have and will forever. If i offended then I am sorry. End of chat now surely?”

“Pippa,

PS Flossy for godsake take a chill pill

OMG that is rich coming from you.
You only post on here with nasty comments and provocative threads. I don`t think I`ve ever seen a post from you with anything like a decent reply or a pleasant response. You do realise that you are known as the forum witch don`t you?”

“No Flossy, I didn't realise ~I thought it was someone else”

“Anyway - back to the thread.

I'm glad that the point of a short life span has been brought up because it's helped me realise that it's a waste of time donating to Dove House.”

“Er, just in case, thought ole Floss might have it (or a bit of it). Now look what you made me say. You! My dog's got it. Thinks he's staying with me if I lose the house. WRONG!”

“People can care about issues without being personally involved. Well some people can.”

“....which I appreciate. Perhaps some Forum members don't understand alternative humour eh?

Hence the Frankie Boyle haterz mentality. It's not real.”

“DJ your not even remotely funny... the irony is that the only person you amuse is the manipulative, granny spammer.... just watch your back old crows eat budgies for breakfast ... you are an insignificant a pawn in virtual game of chess which she is playing on her own... sad sad sad

pippa ...I note that your sole objective is to cause trouble for g69... in fact 'virtually' stalking g69 ... beware the headlines say that one chap was sentenced to 15 years at your age you could spend the rest of your life in nick ...

I do hear that they give the jailhouse keys at broadmoor to DJ's so you may get a charitable visit from your forum pet... maybe you could reinact lady chatterley's lover ...maggie may”

“ghostwriter69

You say I've never mentioned my job

Oh but I did and how you ridiculed and mocked me”

“pippa27

"Oh but I did and how you ridiculed and mocked me"

As you are so good at finding old posts, please provide proof of this.




jenoh

He may have apologised at that moment on that thread but there was plenty of other stuff going on at the same time on all the others. And he only apologised because it was YOU he was apologising to. My name was never mentioned.”

“I am going to have to revert to playground mentality and say you started it....and when it all dies down you stir it all up again.

I like g69 as a poster and I would rather follow someone who I can relate to than a bitter twisted biddy. Its funny how you have had cross words with flossy who is probably the least likely to cause offence. As for intimating your a stunner, beauty is only skin deep and what an ugly troller you have become.

I am not going to even comment on the spelling error because if that's all you can fire at me it's a poor job ... so in your own words 'wind your neck in' forum troll”

“newlad

When you say you agree with what she had to say, who is 'she'? I am assuming bt13jz but maybe not?”

“Little_Ole_G

Yes I think it is important our furry little friends give so much in their short time here and sometimes make more sense than some Human beings you only have to look at some of the replies on this subject but ignore them me for one yes we should help those charities.”

“newlad

Let's see if you get away with that spelling mistake! LOL”

“newlad

Who is DG?”

“newlad

My point about the spelling is that jz got picked up on hers. Seems like it's not what you know but who you know on this forum.

In my opinion spelling mistakes don't matter but when someone is doing it for effect (like wozza) or attacking education/teachers/other people's spellings and can't spell themselves, then they are fair game.

But my pet hate is people who can't calculate percentages. LOL.”

“newlad,

Then along comes DG , I will pass on that one .

If only...”

“StagChilli

Good answer! Though I could imagine it upsetting a reptile lover! :-D”

“Don't understand why people use the word 'animal' or the names of certain types of animals as insults.”