Monday, September 17 2012, 3:49PM
“E_Badger
There are an awful lot of vermin about - and most of them are humans as shown on the neverending crime stories on the HDM web site not forgetting the hundreds that are not reported multiplied by all the towns and cities in the UK.
Then we can look at the ones who live abroad, but by that point we are seriously running out of numbers to count them...
If I had to chose between having a badger living in my garden and that idiot who set fire to the block of flats to pretend he was saving the residents ... mmmm ... hard one!
Thanks for the link. I did sign one the other day but I'm sure it was a different one. On the Care petition site. Have signed this now.
For all the problems they caused the country at least Labour were on the badgers' side and didn't want a cull.”
Monday, September 17 2012, 8:20PM
“flossy
Exactly what I was going to write. And they probably wouldn't be able to sell the beef to certain countries if the cows had been vaccinated (as with the foot and mouth vaccine) though they don't seem to care how many growth hormone vaccinations they are given.”
Monday, September 17 2012, 8:38PM
“@Robin4Life ... it is true some badgers do carry bTB, however, so do some deer and some squirrels and some cats and some birds. Would you have all of them shot to prevent re-infecting the cow?
The fact is that shooting badgers or just vaccinating badgers will not stop cattle from being re-infected with bTB - the figure quoted is a 16% reduction. Is that figure really worthy of removal of an estimated 130,000 animals from the British landscape?
A sensible policy would be to vaccinate the cow, together with further improved domestic herd husbandry and also leave vaccine dosed bait for the wildlife, but for some strange reason the Conservatives cancelled five out of the six bovine vaccination trials.
Recent article from the Guardian...
http://tinyurl.com/8uspkqs
As a side issue (and I know I previously knocked plumduff for the interpretation of vermin) were you also aware that DEFRA are sneaking through policy which will allow for any animal to be reclassified as nuisance to allow culling - this potentially means otters being killed if sport fishermen are not catching enough, re-introduced raptors, ie. kites, buzzards, being shot or poisoned "legally" because they are a threat to grouse shoots and we all know what the Conservatives feel about foxes.
Open season is coming to UK wildlife. The badger cull is one of those lines in the sand where the like minded (whom I believe to be in the majority) have to get together and say NO.”
Tuesday, September 18 2012, 12:40AM
“Badgers have inhabited the British Isles longer than human beings. Their fossilised remains have been found in ancient rock strata. It is an outrage that culling is to be sanctioned by law. I say we should be culling the Tory landowners and those idiots who so boringly and wrongly claim that urban dwellers don't understand country matters. The TB link is largely unproven and besides culling isn't the only option. I say - Save the Badger! We are privileged to live alongside these beautiful creatures. We should NOT have licence to murder them.”
“Have you signed the TeamBadger.org petition and if not, why not?
The trial badger cull in Gloucestershire and Somerset has begun with the issue of the first killing licences by Natural England to shooters today, September 17th.
Dr Brian May, former guitarist with Queen and passionate animal lover, has set up an official petition against the cull. 100,000 signatures (currently totalling around 22,000) and the topic and actions of badger culling has to be reviewed by parliament.
Please review the following links and do sign the petition. Together we can stop the killing in these two trial areas and also prevent the loss of our British badgers from the policy being applied to the rest of England.
Link to Team Badger .org
http://tinyurl.com/8rq9vck
Direct link to the petition site...
http://tinyurl.com/bvjp9rv
The Welsh Assembly is vaccinating badgers now.
The Government of Ireland is trapping testing and vaccinating badgers now.
Only the English Con-Dem government is shooting badgers.
Please consider helping to stop this massacre of 70% of badger setts with potential for local extinction.
Everyone with access to a computer who are UK resident can lodge a petition, will you?
Thank you.”