How does Hull City team of 2013 compare to Phil Brown's promotion squad?

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Tuesday, February 26, 2013
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Brad Rial is an 18-year-old journalism student from Hull. He is a season ticket holder at the KC and has been to around 200 Hull City games.

For any Hull City fan at Andy Dawson’s 2008 reunion event on Saturday night, it was an opportunity to relive and remember a remarkable season. Few will ever forget the sight of Dean Windass’ iconic goal which earned the club promotion to the Premier League at Wembley, and the rollercoaster journey that followed.

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    Tigers fan Brad Rial

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    Steve Bruce with Ahmed Elmohamady and Sone Aluko

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    Frazier Campbell celebrates with Dean Windass

Just a few hours prior to the event though, the current City side suffered a humbling 4-1 defeat at Bolton Wanderers. Despite this, they have the chance to eclipse that famous 2008 side by gaining promotion automatically. With an impressive 62 points gathered from 34 games, only goal difference separates them from the top two. It begs the question: where does this side stand in comparison with the promotion winning side of 2008?

It is important to remember that the side of five years ago far exceeded any expectations set at the start of that season. This season however, there was a genuine belief that the side would at least finish in the play-off places. This was in no small part down to the appointment of Steve Bruce, a manager with vast top flight experience. In this sense, it makes Phil Brown’s achievement of 2008 even more remarkable; given it was only his second managerial job.

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Bruce has certainly used the transfer market to his advantage. Indeed, seven of the eleven that started in the defeat to Bolton were Bruce signings.

You could argue that the side of five years ago was much more settled than it is now. Then, the back five of Myhill, Ricketts, Turner, Brown and Dawson practically picked itself. That cannot be said of this season though, with three goalkeepers used before we’d even reached Christmas. Competition for places, along with frequent injury problems, has meant that James Chester has been the only mainstay in the Tigers’ back three this season. Despite this, City have the fourth best defence in the division, emphasising the strength in depth they have at the back.

Given that the two sides operate different systems, it is difficult to compare each player in each position directly. One thing that does stand out in the current crop though, is the lack of a real leader. Ian Ashbee was the epitome of the word in 2008, scoring vital goals in wins against Barnsley and Crystal Palace towards the end of the season. Although Robert Koren and Jack Hobbs are excellent footballers in their own right, they don’t quite match Ashbee’s presence.

Up front, the partnership of Dean Windass and Fraizer Campbell proved fruitful, with the duo scoring thirty goals between them. With Caleb Folan proving a valuable asset from the bench, City didn’t find goalscoring a problem five years ago. This season though, it remains their Achilles heel. Jay Simpson and Sone Aluko started the season brilliantly, but with Simpson failing to find the net since November 6th, and Aluko seemingly out for the rest of the season, goals have been hard to come by. Gedo has made an immediate impact since he arrived on loan, but it is a big ask for him to keep it up until the end of the season. The absence through injury of Matty Fryatt compounds the problem, with many fans believing that he’d flourish in this system.

That City can afford to replace the likes of long-term absentees such as Fryatt, and also Joe Dudgeon, highlights the strength in depth this squad has compared to the 2008 side. Players such as Seyi Olofinjana and Andy Dawson – such a key figure five years ago – struggle to even make the bench, and you suspect the whole squad will be called upon during the next 12 games. City have amassed 11 more points this season than at the same stage in 2008, and even though the league is arguably much more competitive this time around, they have given themselves every chance of reaching the top flight once more.

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  • Profile image for mattlill90

    by mattlill90

    Thursday, February 28 2013, 8:26AM

    “Not allowed to own 2 clubs for money laundering reasons.

    Stuff all the comparisons and that stuff just. Concentrate on the next game city!”

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    by oldgoldone

    Wednesday, February 27 2013, 2:39PM

    “Congratulations to Brad Rial: it was a well-reasoned article showing much maturity, by a young man who, surely, will have a successful future in journalism. - And well done HDM, for giving young Brad an opportunity.”

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    by Davidht11

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 10:13PM

    “Rich fc bang on. Champions with 69pts (100pts in new money) and a GD of +47 plus a great cup run. They did entertain.”

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    by Richfc

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 8:17PM

    “No promotion team
    but
    Waggy. Chilton BUtler & Co gave us exciting football with lots of goals
    109 one season .... I think I recall”

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    by Davidht11

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 8:11PM

    “If my research is correct in the 2007/08 season after 34 matches we 9th in the table with 50pts and a GD of +3. So we are much better placed than then and I agree I think it is a tougher division this season. Stoke achieved automatic promotion with 79 pts it looks as if it will take about 87pts this season”

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    by yank4hullcity

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 7:32PM

    “Brad...a well written article from a young journalism student....a bright future awaits you!”

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    by Tranbypark

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 5:52PM

    “Oaktown

    I think you are correct about the owner owning both clubs, Jimbo mentions non European players but I don't think that comes into it as all watfords loans/transfers are from Italy and Germany.”

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    by OaktownTiger

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 5:39PM

    “jeez that seems ridiculous is it true the same guy owns the two clubs they are loaned from ?”

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    by Tranbypark

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 5:13PM

    “Oaktown.

    I recently read an explanation of the loan system regarding Watford. When you loan players from English clubs you can only loan two players from a club there is no limit to the amount of players you can loan. If you loaned ten players from English clubs they would have to be from a minimum of five clubs, two per club. On match days you are only allowed to name a maximum of five loan players in your squad. The rules are different if you recruit from overseas,loan players are classed as transfers there is no limit on numbers and no limit on how many you can have in a match day squad, this rule applies to our two Egyptians . This is why Ian Holloway was whinging after palace drew with watford. Watford have simply exploited a loop hole in the rules I have been told the football league are planning to change the rule for next season. As Holloway said, I might as well take Barcelona B. on loan and rename them Crystal Palace.

    Hope this was of some help. UTT.”

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    by Jimbo1948

    Tuesday, February 26 2013, 5:07PM

    “Oaktown Tiger. The reason Watford have so many loan players is because they found a loophole in the rules which say that you can have x amount of loan players. BUT if those loan players are from outside of the European Union then they are classed as being your players that you have bought in and not on loan. Confused? Yes so are a lot of other people but it's quite legal to do, they haven't broken any rule just stretched them.”

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